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People who insist things cannot be done get in the way of the people out there working very hard doing them. If you cannot help, at least stay out of the way.

by ncmncm 4y ago

People who insist things cannot be done get in the way of the people out there working very hard doing them. If you cannot help, at least stay out of the way. All of the stuff you say you will replace in 10 years will be much cheaper by then.

kkfx 4y ago
Ah sure, since I've invested more than half a million euros in the "green tech" studying it and draw my conclusions and they are far different from the current propaganda I have to shut my mouth. I can help actually, those who want that help, for instance suggesting to ARREST for crime against humanity top neoliberals in chiefs from G8/T20 to "World Government" [1] to top companies CEOs from pharma to energy stating clear to their subjects that they can do their best to cooperate building a new Democratic society or face a fierce revenge by an angry crowd who will not likely recognize humans rights on those that never recognize them. In the meantime start debating/planning a MASSIVE de-urbanization since that's the sole way I see to evolve cities to something sustainable, targeting a vast riviera without much hubs except few districts who need to be dense for specific needs, from schools to automotive. Targeting the same evolution of IT from big mainframes to clusters of small machines. Clearly state that ALL critical sectors like health, weapons, energy, TLCs, roads and water of a country can't NEVER ever anymore be private nor a mix of private and public bodies and trying that from the public is high treason, from the private is an attempted coup. Creating PUBLIC ONLY research centers with funds and religious separation from the private sector to craft the evolution of the humanity not just the one of a very small cohort of oppressors. Proposing a military service following the classic Swiss model: both sex from 18 to 28 one PAID month per year of guerrilla like training with weapon and ammo at home only AFTER being trained and check, so in case of attempted gov. coup protests would know what to do and since both parties are armed and trained both party remain peaceful fully knowing that being violent means ending in a bloodbath with no winners. Because yes, the green new deal is not about ecology nor pollution but a new society designed like adolf hitler dreams who are now Klaus Schwab & friends dreams. Of course veeeeery few seems to agree with that so the society keep going in it's suicidal way. My equipment's in 10 years will be probably irreplaceable due to a deep social collapse that demand at least 30 years to recover and in any case will cost more and more because their target is not a "green" revolution but pushing people to poverty to steer them better. [1] https://www.worldgovernmentsummit.org/ https://www.worldgovernmentsummit.org/
- ncmncm 4y ago
  Will be much cheaper by then provided society does not collapse first. If it does, replacing them will be among the least of your problems. Roving bands of supersonic aluminum Nazi hell zombies from beneath the hollow Earth may figure prominently among the latter. (Maybe they do already?) But securing dietary calories would probably present more frequent difficulty.
  - kkfx 4y ago
    So your theory is "let's try and HOPE we will be able before the society collapse to make the new deal works"? If so consider a thing: that's a CRIMINAL act even in case of desperation. A society MUST never act without basis. A company can, and individual can because there is a society around to help, the whole society can't because if something goes wrong there is exactly no one around to help. In desperate cases desperate measures are meant to still reach a probable, defined outcome, like deciding to leave many alone, facing unrest etc BUT never hoping for something new to arrive in time: science and industry do not work like that and in general do work only when there are comfort condition for a long period of time. Personally in case of a society collapse, knowing well we can't live in nature anymore, more than dietary calories I would seek revenge in the meat of those I consider guilty, the topmost figure I can reach with the most inhuman and fierce sentiment BTW... Apart of that my point is simple: we have something that work, but is not sustainable since we consume resources more than natural reintegration rates. We DO NOT have alternatives so far. The answer must be try to discover them NOT try to push something we know can't scale nor work on scale nor reproduce itself. With oil you can re-create oil industry. With nuclear you can't but at least you can made tools needed to re-create it. With p.v. and wind power you can't and you can't also create tools needed to re-create panels, inverters etc. So far we know that we do not have nor we can't have in time a global superconductive hypothetical mega-grid to get stable enough energy supply because on enough part of the world Sun always shining and wind always blows. We do not have no viable solution for energy storage except for small scale needs for limited applications. Let's say we probably even can't have enough batteries to power modern homes for even a small fraction of the total population. So the theory is: well, at least we can reduce energy consumption. YES, we can, with p.v. (wind provide too little and too inconstant power) BUT we can't connect it to the grid keeping the grid stable without a big and hyper-fast backup (lithium) and that's why originally BEVs was designed: to be always connected in large enough batches to compensate p.v. oscillations quick enough. UNFORTUNATELY so far: - BEVs on sale have NO integration features for such use case, even for a personal scale like a domestic p.v. + the car as an extra battery talking to home inverters sucking power when the Sun shine, offering power when it's needed; - nothing is even designed for a nation-wide smart grid; - no electric appliance on sale is designed to be smart for p.v. integration, even those who actually claim the contrary. So far we have NO smart-car battery chargers who talk a common and open protocol (let's say via canbus) allowing a human at home or in the car to state: - charge car battery at {maximum,minimum} SOC {ONLY from p.v,also from grid to reach a minimum SOC at $TIME} - car, do provide high voltage standard DC power to the home battery-charger/p.v. inverter as demanded not going below $SOC except in case of outage mode where the minimum SOC descend to near-zero. Nothing is even debated about how to use privately owned cars to backup the grid providing relevant compensation for the service to their owner (please do not cite Tesla, they made proprietary stuff, innovative in general but of a so crappy quality that's a crime asking more than their production costs on sale). So far no home appliance embed a standard protocol to be centrally controllable by a home server/solar inverter to do the ONLY current reasonable thing: p.v. self-consumption as much as possible. Essentially anything on sale, sold as a commercial product, is more a dumb prototype made by some who do not even have clear ideas about it's usage. And you thing that's a "tremendous effort the humanity actually made for a better future"? Are you kidding? Let's start outline a real, resonate high-level overview plan instead.

by ncmncm 4y ago

kkfx 4y ago

Ah sure, since I've invested more than half a million euros in the "green tech" studying it and draw my conclusions and they are far different from the current propaganda I have to shut my mouth. I can help actually, those who want that help, for instance suggesting to ARREST for crime against humanity top neoliberals in chiefs from G8/T20 to "World Government" [1] to top companies CEOs from pharma to energy stating clear to their subjects that they can do their best to cooperate building a new Democratic society or face a fierce revenge by an angry crowd who will not likely recognize humans rights on those that never recognize them. In the meantime start debating/planning a MASSIVE de-urbanization since that's the sole way I see to evolve cities to something sustainable, targeting a vast riviera without much hubs except few districts who need to be dense for specific needs, from schools to automotive. Targeting the same evolution of IT from big mainframes to clusters of small machines. Clearly state that ALL critical sectors like health, weapons, energy, TLCs, roads and water of a country can't NEVER ever anymore be private nor a mix of private and public bodies and trying that from the public is high treason, from the private is an attempted coup. Creating PUBLIC ONLY research centers with funds and religious separation from the private sector to craft the evolution of the humanity not just the one of a very small cohort of oppressors. Proposing a military service following the classic Swiss model: both sex from 18 to 28 one PAID month per year of guerrilla like training with weapon and ammo at home only AFTER being trained and check, so in case of attempted gov. coup protests would know what to do and since both parties are armed and trained both party remain peaceful fully knowing that being violent means ending in a bloodbath with no winners. Because yes, the green new deal is not about ecology nor pollution but a new society designed like adolf hitler dreams who are now Klaus Schwab & friends dreams. Of course veeeeery few seems to agree with that so the society keep going in it's suicidal way. My equipment's in 10 years will be probably irreplaceable due to a deep social collapse that demand at least 30 years to recover and in any case will cost more and more because their target is not a "green" revolution but pushing people to poverty to steer them better. [1] https://www.worldgovernmentsummit.org/ https://www.worldgovernmentsummit.org/

ncmncm 4y ago
Will be much cheaper by then provided society does not collapse first. If it does, replacing them will be among the least of your problems. Roving bands of supersonic aluminum Nazi hell zombies from beneath the hollow Earth may figure prominently among the latter. (Maybe they do already?) But securing dietary calories would probably present more frequent difficulty.
- kkfx 4y ago
  So your theory is "let's try and HOPE we will be able before the society collapse to make the new deal works"? If so consider a thing: that's a CRIMINAL act even in case of desperation. A society MUST never act without basis. A company can, and individual can because there is a society around to help, the whole society can't because if something goes wrong there is exactly no one around to help. In desperate cases desperate measures are meant to still reach a probable, defined outcome, like deciding to leave many alone, facing unrest etc BUT never hoping for something new to arrive in time: science and industry do not work like that and in general do work only when there are comfort condition for a long period of time. Personally in case of a society collapse, knowing well we can't live in nature anymore, more than dietary calories I would seek revenge in the meat of those I consider guilty, the topmost figure I can reach with the most inhuman and fierce sentiment BTW... Apart of that my point is simple: we have something that work, but is not sustainable since we consume resources more than natural reintegration rates. We DO NOT have alternatives so far. The answer must be try to discover them NOT try to push something we know can't scale nor work on scale nor reproduce itself. With oil you can re-create oil industry. With nuclear you can't but at least you can made tools needed to re-create it. With p.v. and wind power you can't and you can't also create tools needed to re-create panels, inverters etc. So far we know that we do not have nor we can't have in time a global superconductive hypothetical mega-grid to get stable enough energy supply because on enough part of the world Sun always shining and wind always blows. We do not have no viable solution for energy storage except for small scale needs for limited applications. Let's say we probably even can't have enough batteries to power modern homes for even a small fraction of the total population. So the theory is: well, at least we can reduce energy consumption. YES, we can, with p.v. (wind provide too little and too inconstant power) BUT we can't connect it to the grid keeping the grid stable without a big and hyper-fast backup (lithium) and that's why originally BEVs was designed: to be always connected in large enough batches to compensate p.v. oscillations quick enough. UNFORTUNATELY so far: - BEVs on sale have NO integration features for such use case, even for a personal scale like a domestic p.v. + the car as an extra battery talking to home inverters sucking power when the Sun shine, offering power when it's needed; - nothing is even designed for a nation-wide smart grid; - no electric appliance on sale is designed to be smart for p.v. integration, even those who actually claim the contrary. So far we have NO smart-car battery chargers who talk a common and open protocol (let's say via canbus) allowing a human at home or in the car to state: - charge car battery at {maximum,minimum} SOC {ONLY from p.v,also from grid to reach a minimum SOC at $TIME} - car, do provide high voltage standard DC power to the home battery-charger/p.v. inverter as demanded not going below $SOC except in case of outage mode where the minimum SOC descend to near-zero. Nothing is even debated about how to use privately owned cars to backup the grid providing relevant compensation for the service to their owner (please do not cite Tesla, they made proprietary stuff, innovative in general but of a so crappy quality that's a crime asking more than their production costs on sale). So far no home appliance embed a standard protocol to be centrally controllable by a home server/solar inverter to do the ONLY current reasonable thing: p.v. self-consumption as much as possible. Essentially anything on sale, sold as a commercial product, is more a dumb prototype made by some who do not even have clear ideas about it's usage. And you thing that's a "tremendous effort the humanity actually made for a better future"? Are you kidding? Let's start outline a real, resonate high-level overview plan instead.