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> providers offer bubbles for a user to choose from How is this different from the current internet?

infogulch 4y ago
The platform is tied to the bubble. GP is proposing decoupling them, so the user can choose the platform and choose the bubble separately. > Tying (informally, product tying) is the practice of selling one product or service as a mandatory addition to the purchase of a different product or service. In legal terms, a tying sale makes the sale of one good (the tying good) to the de facto customer (or de jure customer) conditional on the purchase of a second distinctive good (the tied good). Tying is often illegal when the products are not naturally related. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tying_(commerce) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tying_(commerce)
- monetus 4y ago
  Is the implication that you would have a Netflix/Hulu/Disney dynamic of... Social media subscriptions?
- fshbbdssbbgdd 4y ago
  The bubble must by necessity have some sort of interface associated with it in order to get the content to the user. There’s a generic platform (HTTP, browser/mobile APIs) and then the “bubble service” implements against those to reach the user. Seems like a completely natural form of tying to me. Are you proposing we force another layer of middlemen to be added in between there?
  - infogulch 4y ago
    I think there's a reasonable argument to be made that the problems surrounding platforms regarding their control of censorship & free speech would be largely resolved if that aspect were decoupled. You may also think that the tying that bell and the railroads did with their respective infrastructure is 'natural', but that was made illegal and those platforms were forced to break up, so I don't think its appropriate to dismiss this issue offhand. I'm not interested in hashing out a complete argument and coming to a vacuous conclusion with some other random on an internet forum, I'm just saying that there seems to be a reasonable argument to be had in this direction.
- evrydayhustling 4y ago
  Who decides which is the platform and which is the bubble? Seems like Twitter wants to define moderation policies (probably because they think that getting people to value Twitter means placing an some rules on the conversation). Who gets to say that they are a platform forced to carry all bubbles?
  - deleted 4y ago
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The platform is tied to the bubble. GP is proposing decoupling them, so the user can choose the platform and choose the bubble separately. > Tying (informally, product tying) is the practice of selling one product or service as a mandatory addition to the purchase of a different product or service. In legal terms, a tying sale makes the sale of one good (the tying good) to the de facto customer (or de jure customer) conditional on the purchase of a second distinctive good (the tied good). Tying is often illegal when the products are not naturally related. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tying_(commerce) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tying_(commerce)

monetus 4y ago
Is the implication that you would have a Netflix/Hulu/Disney dynamic of... Social media subscriptions?
fshbbdssbbgdd 4y ago
The bubble must by necessity have some sort of interface associated with it in order to get the content to the user. There’s a generic platform (HTTP, browser/mobile APIs) and then the “bubble service” implements against those to reach the user. Seems like a completely natural form of tying to me. Are you proposing we force another layer of middlemen to be added in between there?
- infogulch 4y ago
  I think there's a reasonable argument to be made that the problems surrounding platforms regarding their control of censorship & free speech would be largely resolved if that aspect were decoupled. You may also think that the tying that bell and the railroads did with their respective infrastructure is 'natural', but that was made illegal and those platforms were forced to break up, so I don't think its appropriate to dismiss this issue offhand. I'm not interested in hashing out a complete argument and coming to a vacuous conclusion with some other random on an internet forum, I'm just saying that there seems to be a reasonable argument to be had in this direction.
evrydayhustling 4y ago
Who decides which is the platform and which is the bubble? Seems like Twitter wants to define moderation policies (probably because they think that getting people to value Twitter means placing an some rules on the conversation). Who gets to say that they are a platform forced to carry all bubbles?
- deleted 4y ago
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