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The Court talks about this in the decision[0]. It makes a strong argument that striking down the Texas law before it's ever been enforced makes no sense, becau
by dpifke 4y ago
The Court talks about this in the decision[0]. It makes a strong argument that striking down the Texas law before it's ever been enforced makes no sense, because all discussions of its benefits or harms are in the hypothetical realm. Quoting from pages 9-10:
First, the judicial power vested in us by Article III does not include the
power to veto statutes. And that omission is no accident: The Founders
expressly considered giving judges that power, and they decided not to do so.
Several delegates at the Constitutional Convention suggested creating a
“Council of Revision” consisting of federal judges and the executive.
Jonathan F. Mitchell, The Writ-of-Erasure Fallacy, 104 Va. L. Rev. 933, 954
(2018). They wanted to empower this Council to veto Congress’s legislation,
subject to congressional override. Ibid. A veto would render the legislation
“void.” Ibid. But despite the best efforts of James Wilson and James
Madison, the Convention rejected the proposal—three times over. Id. at
957–59. That means we have no power to “strike down,” “void,” or
“invalidate” an entire law. See id. at 936 (explaining that “federal courts have
no authority to erase a duly enacted law from the statute books” but have
only the power “to decline to enforce a statute in a particular case or
controversy” and “to enjoin executive officials from taking steps to enforce
a statute”); Borden v. United States, 141 S. Ct. 1817, 1835–36 (2021) (Thomas,
J., concurring in the judgment) (noting that “[c]ourts have no authority to
strike down statutory text” and that “a facial challenge, if successful, has the
same effect as nullifying a statute” (quotations omitted)); Kevin C. Walsh,
Partial Unconstitutionality, 85 N.Y.U. L. Rev. 738, 756 (2010) (explaining
that the Founders did not conceive of judicial review as the power to “strike
down” legislation).
Second, the judicial power vested in us by Article III is limited to
deciding certain “Cases” and “Controversies.” U.S. Const. art. III, § 2.
A federal court “has no jurisdiction to pronounce any statute, either of a state
or of the United States, void, because irreconcilable with the constitution,
except as it is called upon to adjudge the legal rights of litigants in actual
controversies.” Liverpool, N.Y. & Phila. S.S. Co. v. Comm’rs of Emigration,
113 U.S. 33, 39 (1885); accord Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. (1 Cranch) 137, 178
(1803). This limitation on federal jurisdiction to “actual controversies”
prevents courts from “ancitipat[ing] a question of constitutional law in
advance of the necessity of deciding it.” Liverpool, 113 U.S. at 39; see also
Broadrick v. Oklahoma, 413 U.S. 601, 610–11 (1973) (“[U]nder our
constitutional system courts are not roving commissions assigned to pass
judgment on the validity of the Nation’s laws.”). And it makes pre-
enforcement facial challenges a particularly nettlesome affair. Such suits
usually do not present “flesh-and-blood legal problems with data relevant
and adequate to an informed judgment.” New York v. Ferber, 458 U.S. 747,
768 (1982) (quotation omitted). Instead, they require the court “to consider
every conceivable situation which might possibly arise in the application of
complex and comprehensive legislation,” forcing courts to deploy the severe
power of judicial review “with reference to hypothetical cases.” United
States v. Raines, 362 U.S. 17, 21–22 (1960).
Third, federalism. Invalidate-the-law-now, discover-how-it-works-
later judging is particularly troublesome when reviewing state laws, as it
deprives “state courts [of ] the opportunity to construe a law to avoid
constitutional infirmities.” Ferber, 458 U.S. at 768. And “facial challenges
threaten to short circuit the democratic process by preventing laws
embodying the will of the people from being implemented in a manner
consistent with the Constitution.” Wash. State Grange, 552 U.S. at 451. The
respect owed to a sovereign State thus demands that we look particularly
askance at a litigant who wants unelected federal judges to countermand the
State’s democratically accountable policymakers.
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- matthewdgreen 4y agoI think what you're proposing is that major providers should have either obeyed the law (with all the claimed negative consequences taking place instantly through that compliance) or they should have disobeyed the law and waited for a "case or controversy" to emerge from that decision. I don't think the court actually wants appellants to disobey the law, so I find it hard to take this argument seriously.
- dpifke 4y agoThe decision talks about this. The law does not allow for damages, only injunctive relief. So any negative consequences from enforcement would be fleeting, potentially stayed while the actual case or controversy worked its way through the courts. Quoting from page 14: This rationale for overbreadth adjudication is wholly inapposite here. First of all, there are no third parties to chill. The plaintiff trade associations represent all the Platforms covered by HB 20. Additionally, unlike individual citizens potentially subject to criminal sanctions—the usual beneficiaries of overbreadth rulings—the entities subject to HB 20 are large, well-heeled corporations that have hired an armada of attorneys from some of the best law firms in the world to protect their censorship rights. And any fear of chilling is made even less credible by HB 20’s remedial scheme. Not only are criminal sanctions unavailable; damages are unavailable. It’s hard to see how the Platforms—which have already shown a willingness to stand on their rights—will be so chilled by the prospect of declaratory and injunctive relief that a facial remedy is justified. Third, the Platforms principally argue against HB 20 by speculating about the most extreme hypothetical applications of the law. Such whataboutisms further exemplify why it’s inappropriate to hold the law facially unconstitutional in a pre-enforcement posture. (emphasis in original)
- asdfasgasdgasdg 4y ago(c) If a social media platform fails to promptly comply with a court order in an action brought under this section, the court shall hold the social media platform in contempt and shall use all lawful measures to secure immediate compliance with the order, including daily penalties sufficient to secure immediate compliance. It does appear to allow for something akin to damages. Would an appeal preclude contempt charges?