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Just be honest and straightforward with whatever needs to be said, without being an ass. If that gets you in trouble and you have to leave the place, rest assu

Just be honest and straightforward with whatever needs to be said, without being an ass. If that gets you in trouble and you have to leave the place, rest assured that you'll find a place where your traits are appreciated and your work life will be 1,000 times better.

waboremo 4y ago
Having to leave due to disagreeing affects you even if you eventually land somewhere else better. It absolutely alters the way you view that space between you and those with more influence than you, and you will likely do a bunch of added work trying to build yourself back up. Even if your confidence isn't shattered, you'll probably wind up doing a bunch of things mentioned in the article anyways, negating the advice of "just be honest". Unless of course you're stubborn, that does have its benefits sometimes! Also a lot of comments are coming at this from a boss -> employee role, but it also applies from a lesser known person on social media -> more influential person on social media too. Being honest and straightforward does not work there most of the time and leads to a lot of misunderstanding!
pessimizer 4y ago
> without being an ass. There's no definition of this, this is more of that don't be a dick stuff. What constitutes being a dick or an ass hinges on culture. If you're the new guy and everybody else is experienced and has worked with each other for a while, being an ass might mean opening your mouth at all. Whether you're right or not. > rest assured that you'll find a place where your traits are appreciated A lot of people don't appreciate the trait of pride in lacking social skills and tact or lack of awareness of one's surroundings or not understanding power structures. They'd have to worry about you saying something dumb to a client (even if you were right.)
- moralestapia 4y ago
  >pride in lacking social skills and tact or lack of awareness of one's surroundings or not understanding power structures LOL, projecting too much I guess? I never implied any of that. >What constitutes being a dick or an ass hinges on culture. Nah. Or are you talking about circumstances like "I didn't knew that a handshake was offensive in this remote village"? Those things are extremely rare in business contexts, and even when they happen both parties usually laugh it off, as they both understand that the intent was not to offend. "Don't be a dick" is hard to describe, as you cannot put a 500-page book with all the specific situations written literally, which is the kind of thing that will please people like you. But, at the same time, every single person that's at least 12 years old have a sense of "this is right" vs. "this is not right". Don't lie, don't steal, there's a place for everything, if something ain't yours don't touch, I don't know, that sort of thing. If you don't get those things, or pretend not to get them because of some weird and extremely particular circumstances that you have to make up to justify it, well ... let's not work together then :).
  - gallegojaime 4y ago
    They raised valid points, I don't understand all the sudden snide remarks. Some companies are more tolerant of input and advice, others unfortunately are less so. It is not uncommon to find a workplace where the boss will tag you as a 'dick' if you 'argue too much', and blackball you, even if you asserted it politely and reasonably.
ThePadawan 4y ago
Thank you for the affirmation in that. I've had to come to the same conclusion recently and am better off for it, as you say.
Bakary 4y ago
This website views professional relationships with a privileged lens because most people here can switch jobs easily, negotiate job conditions more freely, have more in the bank when looking for another position. For most people there is no such rest assured and it's important to remember that.

waboremo 4y ago

Having to leave due to disagreeing affects you even if you eventually land somewhere else better. It absolutely alters the way you view that space between you and those with more influence than you, and you will likely do a bunch of added work trying to build yourself back up. Even if your confidence isn't shattered, you'll probably wind up doing a bunch of things mentioned in the article anyways, negating the advice of "just be honest". Unless of course you're stubborn, that does have its benefits sometimes! Also a lot of comments are coming at this from a boss -> employee role, but it also applies from a lesser known person on social media -> more influential person on social media too. Being honest and straightforward does not work there most of the time and leads to a lot of misunderstanding!

pessimizer 4y ago

> without being an ass. There's no definition of this, this is more of that don't be a dick stuff. What constitutes being a dick or an ass hinges on culture. If you're the new guy and everybody else is experienced and has worked with each other for a while, being an ass might mean opening your mouth at all. Whether you're right or not. > rest assured that you'll find a place where your traits are appreciated A lot of people don't appreciate the trait of pride in lacking social skills and tact or lack of awareness of one's surroundings or not understanding power structures. They'd have to worry about you saying something dumb to a client (even if you were right.)

moralestapia 4y ago
>pride in lacking social skills and tact or lack of awareness of one's surroundings or not understanding power structures LOL, projecting too much I guess? I never implied any of that. >What constitutes being a dick or an ass hinges on culture. Nah. Or are you talking about circumstances like "I didn't knew that a handshake was offensive in this remote village"? Those things are extremely rare in business contexts, and even when they happen both parties usually laugh it off, as they both understand that the intent was not to offend. "Don't be a dick" is hard to describe, as you cannot put a 500-page book with all the specific situations written literally, which is the kind of thing that will please people like you. But, at the same time, every single person that's at least 12 years old have a sense of "this is right" vs. "this is not right". Don't lie, don't steal, there's a place for everything, if something ain't yours don't touch, I don't know, that sort of thing. If you don't get those things, or pretend not to get them because of some weird and extremely particular circumstances that you have to make up to justify it, well ... let's not work together then :).
- gallegojaime 4y ago
  They raised valid points, I don't understand all the sudden snide remarks. Some companies are more tolerant of input and advice, others unfortunately are less so. It is not uncommon to find a workplace where the boss will tag you as a 'dick' if you 'argue too much', and blackball you, even if you asserted it politely and reasonably.

ThePadawan 4y ago

Thank you for the affirmation in that. I've had to come to the same conclusion recently and am better off for it, as you say.

Bakary 4y ago

This website views professional relationships with a privileged lens because most people here can switch jobs easily, negotiate job conditions more freely, have more in the bank when looking for another position. For most people there is no such rest assured and it's important to remember that.