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Phone calls and private emails are not available to the public at large. The comparison simply doesn't make sense. A tweet is more akin to a newspaper than a pr

by juve1996 4y ago

Phone calls and private emails are not available to the public at large. The comparison simply doesn't make sense. A tweet is more akin to a newspaper than a private phone call or email.

lgleason 4y ago
I would be fine with this argument if section 230 protections were not applied to companies that censor.
idle_zealot 4y ago
Twitter is a combined microblogging and messaging service. The messaging side is unambiguously more akin to email than a newspaper. Microblogging is akin to regular blogging, albeit shortform. Regular blogging is likewise more akin to a newspaper than an email. So this side of Twitter should be considered a hosting provider for people's blogs. Due to this hybrid hosting provider/chat service nature the question of what sort of moderation is permissible becomes complex, especially as users are prone to mixing their blog-like posts with chat-like ones. I personally would interpret a blogging platform provider as a sort of common carrier so this mixed status doesn't change my stance that Twitter ought to do only minimal moderation for spam removal platform stability. To prevent the UX from suffering users should be empowered with their own personal moderation tools to filter posts and users. Twitter already provides such tools.
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- toofy 4y ago
  > twitter ought to do only minimal moderation for spam removal platform stability. i strongly strongly disagree, either we allow filtration or we don’t. on many forums i personally find some people’s almost obsessive shoehorning of conspiratorial ideas to be just as destructive to conversations, just as signal-to-noise destroying as spam for dick-pills. if every behavior is allowed to fuzz every conversation, then it isn’t clear to me how we can discriminate against someone loudly and often sharing with us about the amazing pill which grew their penis to horse-scale girth and length and where we should buy it. either we allow moderation to keep signal-to-noise manageable, or we don’t.

Phone calls and private emails are not available to the public at large. The comparison simply doesn't make sense. A tweet is more akin to a newspaper than a private phone call or email.

lgleason 4y ago

I would be fine with this argument if section 230 protections were not applied to companies that censor.

idle_zealot 4y ago

Twitter is a combined microblogging and messaging service. The messaging side is unambiguously more akin to email than a newspaper. Microblogging is akin to regular blogging, albeit shortform. Regular blogging is likewise more akin to a newspaper than an email. So this side of Twitter should be considered a hosting provider for people's blogs. Due to this hybrid hosting provider/chat service nature the question of what sort of moderation is permissible becomes complex, especially as users are prone to mixing their blog-like posts with chat-like ones. I personally would interpret a blogging platform provider as a sort of common carrier so this mixed status doesn't change my stance that Twitter ought to do only minimal moderation for spam removal platform stability. To prevent the UX from suffering users should be empowered with their own personal moderation tools to filter posts and users. Twitter already provides such tools.

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toofy 4y ago
> twitter ought to do only minimal moderation for spam removal platform stability. i strongly strongly disagree, either we allow filtration or we don’t. on many forums i personally find some people’s almost obsessive shoehorning of conspiratorial ideas to be just as destructive to conversations, just as signal-to-noise destroying as spam for dick-pills. if every behavior is allowed to fuzz every conversation, then it isn’t clear to me how we can discriminate against someone loudly and often sharing with us about the amazing pill which grew their penis to horse-scale girth and length and where we should buy it. either we allow moderation to keep signal-to-noise manageable, or we don’t.