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Let me guess. Was the 5th circuit judge appointed by Trump, with a super conservative background, from the South, vetted by the Federalist society, and pretty y

Let me guess. Was the 5th circuit judge appointed by Trump, with a super conservative background, from the South, vetted by the Federalist society, and pretty young so he/she will last a long time on the bench?

zimpenfish 4y ago
Yes (2018), yes (previously worked for Greg Abbott), no? (Virginia), yes (member since 2002), and yes (1978). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Oldham https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Oldham
- ojbyrne 4y ago
  The capitol of the Confederacy was in Virginia, so I’d say it’s kinda in the South.
- rascul 4y ago
  Virginia is in the south.
- hn_throwaway_99 4y ago
  I'm pretty baffled why you seem to think Richmond VA, which was the capital of the Confederacy, is not the South.
  - deleted 4y ago
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  - zimpenfish 4y ago
    Because https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia has it halfway up the eastern seaboard and as a non-USAian, I couldn't tell you where the dividing line is with any certainty, hence the equivocation.
    - hn_throwaway_99 4y ago
      Just a heads up, citizens of the USA are called "Americans". Yes, the continents are known as North and South America, but nobody is going to think you might be Canadian or Mexican if you say you're an American.
    - whimsicalism 4y ago
      What is a USAian?
- fhsm 4y ago
  Is “no?” a suggestion that VA is not the south? As a modern concept it is: https://www2.census.gov/geo/pdfs/maps-data/maps/reference/us_regdiv.pdf https://www2.census.gov/geo/pdfs/maps-data/maps/reference/us... As a historical concept it was: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason%E2%80%93Dixon_line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason%E2%80%93Dixon_line
  - zimpenfish 4y ago
    Just equivocation because https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia isn't clear to me (a non-USAian) where it falls.
    - claytongulick 4y ago
      This can be very confusing without a background in US culture/history. For a better understanding it helps to familiarize yourself with the Mason-Dixon line [1] [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason%E2%80%93Dixon_line https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason%E2%80%93Dixon_line
    - rascul 4y ago
      That is understandable. Many people inside the USA either aren't completely aware of the divisions and/or have their own opinions. I'm not honestly sure if the divisions matter all that much in a general sense anyway.
Bud 4y ago
Not to mention barely confirmed, 50-49, by the Senate.
Ericson2314 4y ago
This shouldn't be downvoted. evem if there's never a MAGA president again, the Federalist Society judiciary is lurching us towards a constitutional crisis. Getting rid of the filibuster for judges and keeping it for everything else is exactly backwards.
- claytongulick 4y ago
  > Getting rid of the filibuster for judges and keeping it for everything else is exactly backwards. Not sure if you're aware, but it was Harry Reid (D) in 2013 that first did away with the filibuster for judicial nominations [1]. > the Federalist Society judiciary is lurching us towards a constitutional crisis. "We are committed to the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. " [2] If that's lurching us towards a constitutional crisis, it can only mean that we've diverged far from the original intent. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option#:~:text=The%20nuclear%20option%20was%20first,nominations%20to%20the%20Supreme%20Court https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option#:~:text=The%2.... [2] https://fedsoc.org/about-us#Background https://fedsoc.org/about-us#Background
  - sophacles 4y ago
    These are the people who are arguing that the president is above the law. In a democracy where the rule of law is supposed to be absolute. That's a direct threat to democracy.
  - Ericson2314 4y ago
    Yeah Harry Reid did arguably fuck that one up. Don't judge an org by its mission statement lol.

zimpenfish 4y ago

Yes (2018), yes (previously worked for Greg Abbott), no? (Virginia), yes (member since 2002), and yes (1978). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Oldham https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Oldham

ojbyrne 4y ago
The capitol of the Confederacy was in Virginia, so I’d say it’s kinda in the South.
rascul 4y ago
Virginia is in the south.
hn_throwaway_99 4y ago
I'm pretty baffled why you seem to think Richmond VA, which was the capital of the Confederacy, is not the South.
- deleted 4y ago
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- zimpenfish 4y ago
  Because https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia has it halfway up the eastern seaboard and as a non-USAian, I couldn't tell you where the dividing line is with any certainty, hence the equivocation.
  - hn_throwaway_99 4y ago
    Just a heads up, citizens of the USA are called "Americans". Yes, the continents are known as North and South America, but nobody is going to think you might be Canadian or Mexican if you say you're an American.
  - whimsicalism 4y ago
    What is a USAian?
fhsm 4y ago
Is “no?” a suggestion that VA is not the south? As a modern concept it is: https://www2.census.gov/geo/pdfs/maps-data/maps/reference/us_regdiv.pdf https://www2.census.gov/geo/pdfs/maps-data/maps/reference/us... As a historical concept it was: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason%E2%80%93Dixon_line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason%E2%80%93Dixon_line
- zimpenfish 4y ago
  Just equivocation because https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia isn't clear to me (a non-USAian) where it falls.
  - claytongulick 4y ago
    This can be very confusing without a background in US culture/history. For a better understanding it helps to familiarize yourself with the Mason-Dixon line [1] [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason%E2%80%93Dixon_line https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason%E2%80%93Dixon_line
  - rascul 4y ago
    That is understandable. Many people inside the USA either aren't completely aware of the divisions and/or have their own opinions. I'm not honestly sure if the divisions matter all that much in a general sense anyway.

Bud 4y ago

Not to mention barely confirmed, 50-49, by the Senate.

Ericson2314 4y ago

This shouldn't be downvoted. evem if there's never a MAGA president again, the Federalist Society judiciary is lurching us towards a constitutional crisis. Getting rid of the filibuster for judges and keeping it for everything else is exactly backwards.

claytongulick 4y ago
> Getting rid of the filibuster for judges and keeping it for everything else is exactly backwards. Not sure if you're aware, but it was Harry Reid (D) in 2013 that first did away with the filibuster for judicial nominations [1]. > the Federalist Society judiciary is lurching us towards a constitutional crisis. "We are committed to the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. " [2] If that's lurching us towards a constitutional crisis, it can only mean that we've diverged far from the original intent. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option#:~:text=The%20nuclear%20option%20was%20first,nominations%20to%20the%20Supreme%20Court https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option#:~:text=The%2.... [2] https://fedsoc.org/about-us#Background https://fedsoc.org/about-us#Background
- sophacles 4y ago
  These are the people who are arguing that the president is above the law. In a democracy where the rule of law is supposed to be absolute. That's a direct threat to democracy.
- Ericson2314 4y ago
  Yeah Harry Reid did arguably fuck that one up. Don't judge an org by its mission statement lol.