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I'm not making a living yet, but I'm (as indie/solo hacker) building app (electron based) to make a living. Linkkraft is an offline-first browser that helps yo

I'm not making a living yet, but I'm (as indie/solo hacker) building app (electron based) to make a living. Linkkraft is an offline-first browser that helps you process large amount of tabs when you're trying to extract useful pieces from them. Problem known as tab clutter/ tab overload. How does linkkraft help? 1. It saves (locally) history as a graph where your movements interconnected. New movement is new entry. Linkraft visualizes the graph as a tree instead of tabs. 2. Linkkraft creates snapshot of page state for each step (DOM/text/styles/fonts, removes js). That works for usual pages and SPA (like twitter) There is GC for such snapshots and limitations. So, you don't have to worry about removing not necessary snapshots. Tree & snapshots complement each other. You don't have to deal with finding html snapshot in your downloads. Snapshots are integrated in the trails tree. When you open snapshot, you will get all context. Currently, I'm researching for product market fit and for first 10 paying customers. Going to ask $15 per month for that. (Eventually it will be a tool for hypertext collecting, note-taking, thinking) https://arestov.github.io/linkkraft-notes/trails-tree-plus-offline-for-tool-for-thoughts/linkkraft-fresh-trails-background.mp4 https://arestov.github.io/linkkraft-notes/trails-tree-plus-o... https://arestov.github.io/linkkraft-notes/trails-tree-plus-offline-for-tool-for-thoughts/linkkraft-fresh-offline-real.mp4 https://arestov.github.io/linkkraft-notes/trails-tree-plus-o...

silisili 4y ago
With due respect, have you considered a model of paying once, and again perhaps for major upgrades? Or perhaps a gimped free model with paid features? Paying monthly for local software feels bizarre to me. At least with SaaS I can kinda justify it as 'not my computer.' That said, ongoing development is worth money, but I can't think of anything I use locally that I do or would pay for on a monthly subscription basis. That said, it may just be because the idea is new to me. In any event, I wish you luck.
- gleb-arestov 4y ago
  Yes, I do consider option: lifetime + 1 year updates
- nicolaslem 4y ago
  > Paying monthly for local software feels bizarre to me. I don't like it either but it is actually quite common, Adobe makes a killing doing just that.
  - Deltionsjsj 4y ago
    Adobe is adobe. And for the normal adobe person this made high end adobe products suddenly affordable. PS was 1k while you get it now for 10-30$ / month. Only two mayor issues with this shit is Lightroom as it got slightly more expensive for seldom users like me and the fact that you can't subscribe to it monthly. Adobe took the best things from both worlds.
ttoinou 4y ago
Why not code a Chrome extension ?
- gleb-arestov 4y ago
  1. Chrome store policy (1 feature - 1 extension) 2. Chrome extension sandbox (a lot would still be possible, but hard) 3. Don't want to be trapped in Google platform (you can find a lot of stories of blocked extensions) But, I'm thinking about making syncing extension that will allow you to open sites from linkkraft in chrome
pier25 4y ago
What type of user will pay $180/year for this? It might be I'm missing the point but it seems extremely overpriced.
- gleb-arestov 4y ago
  Would you be amazed by the fact that someone pays that for https://roamresearch.com https://roamresearch.com and https://reflect.app https://reflect.app https://twitter.com/maccaw/status/1552697245933387776 https://twitter.com/maccaw/status/1552697245933387776?
  - pier25 4y ago
    Maybe but how are these apps related to yours?
    - gleb-arestov 4y ago
      I think it's related by sharing desire to say "... it seems extremely overpriced" (as well as any tool that solves a problem that does not cause you pain)
      - pier25 4y ago
        I don't know. Even without being the target of those apps it seems they do solve something worth +$10 per month. Sorry I didn't mean to discourage you from your project but from the outside it does seem like it will be hard to sell at that price. I wish you the best.

silisili 4y ago

With due respect, have you considered a model of paying once, and again perhaps for major upgrades? Or perhaps a gimped free model with paid features? Paying monthly for local software feels bizarre to me. At least with SaaS I can kinda justify it as 'not my computer.' That said, ongoing development is worth money, but I can't think of anything I use locally that I do or would pay for on a monthly subscription basis. That said, it may just be because the idea is new to me. In any event, I wish you luck.

gleb-arestov 4y ago
Yes, I do consider option: lifetime + 1 year updates
nicolaslem 4y ago
> Paying monthly for local software feels bizarre to me. I don't like it either but it is actually quite common, Adobe makes a killing doing just that.
- Deltionsjsj 4y ago
  Adobe is adobe. And for the normal adobe person this made high end adobe products suddenly affordable. PS was 1k while you get it now for 10-30$ / month. Only two mayor issues with this shit is Lightroom as it got slightly more expensive for seldom users like me and the fact that you can't subscribe to it monthly. Adobe took the best things from both worlds.

ttoinou 4y ago

Why not code a Chrome extension ?

gleb-arestov 4y ago
1. Chrome store policy (1 feature - 1 extension) 2. Chrome extension sandbox (a lot would still be possible, but hard) 3. Don't want to be trapped in Google platform (you can find a lot of stories of blocked extensions) But, I'm thinking about making syncing extension that will allow you to open sites from linkkraft in chrome

pier25 4y ago

What type of user will pay $180/year for this? It might be I'm missing the point but it seems extremely overpriced.

gleb-arestov 4y ago
Would you be amazed by the fact that someone pays that for https://roamresearch.com https://roamresearch.com and https://reflect.app https://reflect.app https://twitter.com/maccaw/status/1552697245933387776 https://twitter.com/maccaw/status/1552697245933387776?
- pier25 4y ago
  Maybe but how are these apps related to yours?
  - gleb-arestov 4y ago
    I think it's related by sharing desire to say "... it seems extremely overpriced" (as well as any tool that solves a problem that does not cause you pain)
    - pier25 4y ago
      I don't know. Even without being the target of those apps it seems they do solve something worth +$10 per month. Sorry I didn't mean to discourage you from your project but from the outside it does seem like it will be hard to sell at that price. I wish you the best.