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> There are only two markets for AMD cards that I see: Hackintoshes (increasingly irrelevant with the shift to the new Apple Silicon and inevitable phase-out of
by ascagnel_ 4y ago
> There are only two markets for AMD cards that I see: Hackintoshes (increasingly irrelevant with the shift to the new Apple Silicon and inevitable phase-out of Intel-supporting MacOS releases), Linux systems, and AMD fanboys. All pretty small markets.
You're forgetting two more, one of which is massive: consoles and high-performance embedded gaming systems (basically, the Steam Deck and other high-end handhelds). Consoles aren't going to be super profitable on a per-unit basis, but AMD is making the chips both Microsoft and Sony are using in their boxes, and they're selling a lot of those boxes (right now, about 36MM since they debuted a little under two years ago). Similarly, the Steam Deck is a pretty damn good first attempt at a cohesive handheld that runs PC titles, and I could see that extending past Valve and into a generalized marketplace (and the fact you can plug in a USB-C cable into a dock and get a real Linux desktop is really, really cool).
- cptcobalt 4y agoand Teslas. Seems like AMD’s play is high performance (somewhat) custom silicon as a service.
- KennyBlanken 4y agoI was very specifically speaking about the market for AMD's GPU cards, in the context of a discussion about GPU cards. I'm not being pedantic here. AMD's embedded GPU unit may do fine, and it would be smart for them to shift their development priority to retain that market share. They lost the desktop/laptop discreet GPU battle years ago.
- iforgotpassword 4y agoReplace GPU with CPU and you sound like someone who was very wrong after 2018 came around. Never say never.
- Jnr 4y agoI just looked at different benchmarks and the general consensus seems to be that latest Radeon and Nvidia cards are quite similar in performance. Nvidia seems to lead in raytracing and upscaling but in my opinion only the upscaling part is really important. And I bet that all GPU makers will have a decent solution available for that soon.
- triknomeister 4y agoYou are also forgetting another market: HPC. AMD MI200 GPUs are the boss cards to have if you want to do HPC right now.
- chronogram 4y agoThat's the first time I heard about that, do you have any examples? Google shows me one example of Microsoft using them but that's all I can find.
- meshenna 4y agoOne I know of is the EU-funded LUMI supercomputer: https://www.lumi-supercomputer.eu/lumis-full-system-architecture-revealed/ https://www.lumi-supercomputer.eu/lumis-full-system-architec... "The AMD MI250X GPU is in a class of its own now and for a long time to come. The technical supremacy and performance per watt were the primary reasons why AMD’s MI250X GPUs were selected for LUMI, explains Pekka Manninen, Director of LUMI Leadership Computing Facility."
- LtdJorge 4y agoAlso El Capitan supercomputer, and there are more.
- _naj 4y agoYou might look at the current No. 1 on the Top500 list, Frontier at ORNL. https://www.olcf.ornl.gov/frontier/ https://www.olcf.ornl.gov/frontier/ Arguably the most powerful machine today, delivering >1 Exaflop/s performance.
- varelse 4y ago