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EVGA is doing what every iOS developer secretly dreams of doing whenever they have to deal with some new stupid bullshit from Apple. Respect. Also, I've always

by bogwog 4y ago

EVGA is doing what every iOS developer secretly dreams of doing whenever they have to deal with some new stupid bullshit from Apple. Respect. Also, I've always liked EVGA. I've bought a few of their cards over the years, and many power supplies, and I've never had a bad experience. It seems like they really care about making quality products, which is pretty rare to see nowadays. If they start expanding into new products with the same focus on quality, that'll be a net gain for the world. Maybe they'll try making laptops again? Or maybe this is all just an elaborate power move to put pressure on Nvidia and renegotiate their relationship.

brailsafe 4y ago
Could be both. If you get the negotiating power as an effect of basically telling them to get fucked, even though that wasn't your main thing, then great.
Rapzid 4y ago
First thing I thought of when I read EVGA didn't get 30XX drivers until they were public was how Apple drops breaking updates on users and most developers same day. It's crazy how poorly some companies treat their partners. Take Microsoft in stark contrast to Apple. They aren't perfect but I, as an END USER, have access to major Windows updates 6-12+ months before they are rolled out. New major versions of .Net are in pre-release almost as soon as the current major version drops. Apple drops OSX/iOS updates on their consumers and developers same day leaving everyone scrambling to add new requirements, re-compile, and submit updates to the app store. Apple drops freaking M1 on the market and the bulk their developers same day.
- minhazm 4y ago
  This is just false. Apple does developer beta's for all of their operating systems. The first iOS 16 beta came out over 90 days before the official iOS 16 release date. For the Apple Silicon transition they released a Developer Transition Kit (DTK) Mac Mini with an ARM chip in June/July 2020 and the first M1 Mac came out in November 2020, so developers had at least 5 months or so where they could have been doing some testing. Even then Rosetta works great and the vast majority of apps just worked out of the box and only a small number of users were using Apple Silicon Macs at first anyway since the actual Pro models weren't updated until 2021. Apple doesn't give 12+ months of heads up to developers because their release cadence is too high to do that. A .NET release is more analogous to a Swift release, and Swift is an open source project so you can go and use the bleeding edge whenever you want. Apple definitely isn't the most friendly to their developers but to say they drop Mac OS and iOS updates on consumers and developers on the same day is completely false.
  - sprite 4y ago
    Don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story.
  - upbeat_general 4y ago
    iOS apps that support X version can only be released once X version is publicly available so testing is through TestFlight only.
  - hot_gril 4y ago
    Yeah, I quit the Apple dev ecosystem for entirely different reasons. The betas weren't hard to access.
hot_gril 4y ago
> EVGA is doing what every iOS developer secretly dreams of doing whenever they have to deal with some new stupid bullshit from Apple Oh, I did it. I quit being an iOS dev professionally. Later decided not to even support iOS in my side projects. Just threw away that skillset and focused on developing web skills instead.
onemiketwelve 4y ago
My favorite part is having a gun pointed to my head to buy a MacBook (tbf the physical design is awesome), then have my OS version inexplicably tied to the ide, which has a 3/5 star rating on their own appstore, and then pay $100/y for the privilege

by bogwog 4y ago

brailsafe 4y ago

Could be both. If you get the negotiating power as an effect of basically telling them to get fucked, even though that wasn't your main thing, then great.

Rapzid 4y ago

First thing I thought of when I read EVGA didn't get 30XX drivers until they were public was how Apple drops breaking updates on users and most developers same day. It's crazy how poorly some companies treat their partners. Take Microsoft in stark contrast to Apple. They aren't perfect but I, as an END USER, have access to major Windows updates 6-12+ months before they are rolled out. New major versions of .Net are in pre-release almost as soon as the current major version drops. Apple drops OSX/iOS updates on their consumers and developers same day leaving everyone scrambling to add new requirements, re-compile, and submit updates to the app store. Apple drops freaking M1 on the market and the bulk their developers same day.

minhazm 4y ago
This is just false. Apple does developer beta's for all of their operating systems. The first iOS 16 beta came out over 90 days before the official iOS 16 release date. For the Apple Silicon transition they released a Developer Transition Kit (DTK) Mac Mini with an ARM chip in June/July 2020 and the first M1 Mac came out in November 2020, so developers had at least 5 months or so where they could have been doing some testing. Even then Rosetta works great and the vast majority of apps just worked out of the box and only a small number of users were using Apple Silicon Macs at first anyway since the actual Pro models weren't updated until 2021. Apple doesn't give 12+ months of heads up to developers because their release cadence is too high to do that. A .NET release is more analogous to a Swift release, and Swift is an open source project so you can go and use the bleeding edge whenever you want. Apple definitely isn't the most friendly to their developers but to say they drop Mac OS and iOS updates on consumers and developers on the same day is completely false.
- sprite 4y ago
  Don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story.
- upbeat_general 4y ago
  iOS apps that support X version can only be released once X version is publicly available so testing is through TestFlight only.
- hot_gril 4y ago
  Yeah, I quit the Apple dev ecosystem for entirely different reasons. The betas weren't hard to access.

hot_gril 4y ago

> EVGA is doing what every iOS developer secretly dreams of doing whenever they have to deal with some new stupid bullshit from Apple Oh, I did it. I quit being an iOS dev professionally. Later decided not to even support iOS in my side projects. Just threw away that skillset and focused on developing web skills instead.

onemiketwelve 4y ago

My favorite part is having a gun pointed to my head to buy a MacBook (tbf the physical design is awesome), then have my OS version inexplicably tied to the ide, which has a 3/5 star rating on their own appstore, and then pay $100/y for the privilege