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If you define poor as "below the poverty line" and white people as "white non-hispanic", this is not true. There are more white hispanics below the poverty line

If you define poor as "below the poverty line" and white people as "white non-hispanic", this is not true. There are more white hispanics below the poverty line than white non-hispanics. Typically when people are using the phrase "white people", they are not including latinos so I would rate "America has far more poor white people than poor non-white people" mostly false. Also I really hate how the standard demographics in the US are WHITE, BLACK, ASIAN, or OTHER with an additional binary of HISPANIC or NON-HISPANIC.

silisili 4y ago
I'm not attempting to refute your claim, just adding an anecdote. I recently moved to a majority hispanic area, 80ish percent. It was a bit of culture shock for me in a lot of ways, one of which is you better have cash. Everyone I've hired to do anything will only take cash. If you offer a check, they'll sometimes say no, sometimes say OK, but I have to add tax. Not one would accept a credit card. Plumbers, electricians, handymen, guys with 50k dollar trucks and 80k dollar skid steers. I don't mean to intend to paint this as a solely hispanic thing, this is just the first place I've lived that functions that way. The guy who did our floor was white, and made the same demands in fact. It occurred to me there's likely a not insignificant amount of people making 6 figures who are according to the government, below the poverty line.
jmpman 4y ago
I was intrigued by your assertion that the previous poster’s statement was incorrect. I’d heard that statement was also correct. Finding a data source online was surprisingly difficult, as almost all graphs on the topic were presented in percentages by race as opposed to absolute numbers. I finally found the following data source, and multiplied out the population count by race with the percentage below 100% of the poverty line by race. If you have a different data source, or methodology, please share. https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?q=Poverty%20by%20race&tid=ACSST1Y2021.S1703 https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?q=Poverty%20by%20race&t... White alone, not Hispanic or Latino 188537199 Less than 100% of poverty line 9.5% = 17,911,033 Versus Hispanic or Latino origin (of any race) 61398400 Less than 100% of poverty line 17.5% = 10,744,720 By absolute count, the assertion that White, Hispanic population have more people in poverty than White, non-Hispanic population, appears to be incorrect. From the data, there are 324173084 people in the US, with an overall poverty rate of 12.8%, meaning that 41,494,154 people are in poverty. 17,911,033 White non-Hispanic in poverty 41,494,154 - 17,911,033 = 23,583,121 (rest of the population) So, the White Non Hispanic Population in Poverty is less than the number of non (White Non Hispanic) Population. So, neither of you were correct? But there are a ton of poor white people in the US. Significantly more than any other single race.
- thethirdone 4y ago
  I made a mistake when fact checking; I used the column for under-18 rather than all people. It made it easy to refute the gp's claim so I didn't bother doing the detailed work to support my intended claim ("white non-hispanics are not > 50% of people below the poverty line") before confirming. Thank you for correcting me.

silisili 4y ago

I'm not attempting to refute your claim, just adding an anecdote. I recently moved to a majority hispanic area, 80ish percent. It was a bit of culture shock for me in a lot of ways, one of which is you better have cash. Everyone I've hired to do anything will only take cash. If you offer a check, they'll sometimes say no, sometimes say OK, but I have to add tax. Not one would accept a credit card. Plumbers, electricians, handymen, guys with 50k dollar trucks and 80k dollar skid steers. I don't mean to intend to paint this as a solely hispanic thing, this is just the first place I've lived that functions that way. The guy who did our floor was white, and made the same demands in fact. It occurred to me there's likely a not insignificant amount of people making 6 figures who are according to the government, below the poverty line.

jmpman 4y ago

I was intrigued by your assertion that the previous poster’s statement was incorrect. I’d heard that statement was also correct. Finding a data source online was surprisingly difficult, as almost all graphs on the topic were presented in percentages by race as opposed to absolute numbers. I finally found the following data source, and multiplied out the population count by race with the percentage below 100% of the poverty line by race. If you have a different data source, or methodology, please share. https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?q=Poverty%20by%20race&tid=ACSST1Y2021.S1703 https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?q=Poverty%20by%20race&t... White alone, not Hispanic or Latino 188537199 Less than 100% of poverty line 9.5% = 17,911,033 Versus Hispanic or Latino origin (of any race) 61398400 Less than 100% of poverty line 17.5% = 10,744,720 By absolute count, the assertion that White, Hispanic population have more people in poverty than White, non-Hispanic population, appears to be incorrect. From the data, there are 324173084 people in the US, with an overall poverty rate of 12.8%, meaning that 41,494,154 people are in poverty. 17,911,033 White non-Hispanic in poverty 41,494,154 - 17,911,033 = 23,583,121 (rest of the population) So, the White Non Hispanic Population in Poverty is less than the number of non (White Non Hispanic) Population. So, neither of you were correct? But there are a ton of poor white people in the US. Significantly more than any other single race.

thethirdone 4y ago
I made a mistake when fact checking; I used the column for under-18 rather than all people. It made it easy to refute the gp's claim so I didn't bother doing the detailed work to support my intended claim ("white non-hispanics are not > 50% of people below the poverty line") before confirming. Thank you for correcting me.