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They didn’t check the license and registration of the vehicle?

by 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago

quickthrower2 4y ago
It was reported stolen by the owner. Reread the article for the full story on that.
- jonas21 4y ago
  Right, but they could have verified that the registered owner and person driving the car were the same person. However, since it was in a different state, perhaps the registration database wasn't available - only the stolen vehicle database was.
  - sokoloff 4y ago
    The article says she was handcuffed (detained); it does not say she was arrested (which would be absurd).
    - jonas21 4y ago
      The quote from the police chief implies she was arrested (though it's in brackets, so it could just be sloppy reporting): > “My sergeant on the scene received information from Philly PD, who said, ‘Go ahead. Lock her up. It’s [a] good [arrest],’” Long Beach Township Police Chief Anthony Deely said in 2020.
      - sokoloff 4y ago
        This tweet suggests she was not arrested: https://twitter.com/phillyinquirer/status/1294273901871104000 https://twitter.com/phillyinquirer/status/129427390187110400...
    - 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
      The cuffs are also absurd. Here is a article not behind a paywall/forced login screen https://pressofatlanticcity.com/news/crime/a-philly-police-courtesy-tow-landed-a-lawyer-in-handcuffs-on-lbi-for-stealing-her/article_f2393a98-a4a3-571f-b189-151163c210a3.html https://pressofatlanticcity.com/news/crime/a-philly-police-c... So they even approached her at gun point. And the initial tow and police report was due to police stupidity. Now I don’t want to profile people, but she looks like a regular person and she reports her height as 4ft 11. At what point did the police feel threatened enough to draw weapons?
      - mixmastamyk 4y ago
        Always, and will keep them pointed at you until you are detained.
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rmatt2000 4y ago
Who are you gonna believe? Two forms of government issued paperwork, or your buddy on the other end of the radio? /s
sokoloff 4y ago
For a reported stolen car/felony stop, it seems pretty reasonable that they'd handcuff the driver before checking the driver's license and discovering it matches the registration.
- DiggyJohnson 4y ago
  If the driver is otherwise complying and saying “this is my vehicle, wtf are you doing?” then: no, I strongly disagree.
  - kube-system 4y ago
    Thieves don't usually say "you caught me!" when confronted by police. They frequently claim they own the stolen items.
    - 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
      So what? If the person is non violent and cooperative why use cuffs?
      - kube-system 4y ago
        Cops generally determine the risk of a suspect by the severity of a crime. A felony crime is considered a significant crime. But regardless, cops put cuffs on everyone they arrest. The point being that they don’t know who is going to fight you to get away. People will fight to escape over the dumbest things. It’s not really a huge injustice to sit in cuffs for a couple minutes while cops verify wtf is going on. I’m the first to criticize the cops but this isn’t really that kind of situation. If I reported my car stolen, I would expect the cops to have a reasonable assumption that the person they find it with could be the thief.
- pcl 4y ago
  Years ago, I was pulled over while driving a rental car that had been reported stolen by an earlier renter a few weeks prior. I'm certainly glad that the officers in Atlanta approached the situation professionally and without any cuffs involved.

They didn’t check the license and registration of the vehicle?

quickthrower2 4y ago

It was reported stolen by the owner. Reread the article for the full story on that.

jonas21 4y ago
Right, but they could have verified that the registered owner and person driving the car were the same person. However, since it was in a different state, perhaps the registration database wasn't available - only the stolen vehicle database was.
- sokoloff 4y ago
  The article says she was handcuffed (detained); it does not say she was arrested (which would be absurd).
  - jonas21 4y ago
    The quote from the police chief implies she was arrested (though it's in brackets, so it could just be sloppy reporting): > “My sergeant on the scene received information from Philly PD, who said, ‘Go ahead. Lock her up. It’s [a] good [arrest],’” Long Beach Township Police Chief Anthony Deely said in 2020.
    - sokoloff 4y ago
      This tweet suggests she was not arrested: https://twitter.com/phillyinquirer/status/1294273901871104000 https://twitter.com/phillyinquirer/status/129427390187110400...
  - 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
    The cuffs are also absurd. Here is a article not behind a paywall/forced login screen https://pressofatlanticcity.com/news/crime/a-philly-police-courtesy-tow-landed-a-lawyer-in-handcuffs-on-lbi-for-stealing-her/article_f2393a98-a4a3-571f-b189-151163c210a3.html https://pressofatlanticcity.com/news/crime/a-philly-police-c... So they even approached her at gun point. And the initial tow and police report was due to police stupidity. Now I don’t want to profile people, but she looks like a regular person and she reports her height as 4ft 11. At what point did the police feel threatened enough to draw weapons?
    - mixmastamyk 4y ago
      Always, and will keep them pointed at you until you are detained.
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rmatt2000 4y ago

Who are you gonna believe? Two forms of government issued paperwork, or your buddy on the other end of the radio? /s

sokoloff 4y ago

For a reported stolen car/felony stop, it seems pretty reasonable that they'd handcuff the driver before checking the driver's license and discovering it matches the registration.

DiggyJohnson 4y ago
If the driver is otherwise complying and saying “this is my vehicle, wtf are you doing?” then: no, I strongly disagree.
- kube-system 4y ago
  Thieves don't usually say "you caught me!" when confronted by police. They frequently claim they own the stolen items.
  - 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
    So what? If the person is non violent and cooperative why use cuffs?
    - kube-system 4y ago
      Cops generally determine the risk of a suspect by the severity of a crime. A felony crime is considered a significant crime. But regardless, cops put cuffs on everyone they arrest. The point being that they don’t know who is going to fight you to get away. People will fight to escape over the dumbest things. It’s not really a huge injustice to sit in cuffs for a couple minutes while cops verify wtf is going on. I’m the first to criticize the cops but this isn’t really that kind of situation. If I reported my car stolen, I would expect the cops to have a reasonable assumption that the person they find it with could be the thief.
pcl 4y ago
Years ago, I was pulled over while driving a rental car that had been reported stolen by an earlier renter a few weeks prior. I'm certainly glad that the officers in Atlanta approached the situation professionally and without any cuffs involved.