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Thank you. One addition: - Video cards are 78% of revenue for EVGA.

liquidise 4y ago
I think this was 78% of gross revenue. As OP stated, the GN video makes it clear that the margin on this was, in many cases, negative.
- halotrope 4y ago
  Thank you for the clarification!
- avidphantasm 4y ago
  Is pulling out of video cards now related to Etherium switching to POS? As in, downward pricing pressure for GPUs means they’ll never see positive margins in the foreseeable future? That combined with NVIDIA being hard to deal with makes it not worth it?
  - IncRnd 4y ago
    Not in the slightest. Even if there were no crypto mining, videos cards would all still get purchased.
    - mbreese 4y ago
      Maybe… depends on how many they make. If there is an oversupply, margins will still suffer.
    - geraldwhen 4y ago
      Prices are in free fall and cards sit. 3090 ti is down to $1000 new. At the height of mining, a 3090 went for $3400.
- paulmd 4y ago
  > As OP stated, the GN video makes it clear that the margin on this was, in many cases, negative. No - the margin is in many cases negative, right now, with high-end GPUs 50% below MSRP. This is an important distinction. Margins were great for 2 years, EVGA's GPU department made tons of money during that time even with a few gestures towards the public. He lost tons of money during those years with frivolous, high-R&D, high-ongoing-support-cost ventures like entering the motherboard and enthusiast monitor market.
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jacooper 4y ago
But PSUs make 300% more profit.
- biggc 4y ago
  Maybe so, but I wonder how much of their PSU sales come from the excellent reputation of their GPUs.
  - kemotep 4y ago
    When I bought my power supply several years ago, I went with the highest rated one from johnnyguru at the time which was an EVGA one. It is only one anecdote but at the time at least, the G3 EVGA power supply came highly recommended from johnnyguru with comprehensive tests completed.
    - SSLy 4y ago
      G2 was the only ever recommended, G3 had issues with some protection circuits.
      - kemotep 4y ago
        I do not remember that and this is the first I have heard of that issue. My G3 has had zero issues in 5 years of operation. Do you happen to have a link to that? Seeing as johnnyguru is not available as far as I can tell this is the only proof I have: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/5kl4v0/jonny_gurus_review_of_the_evga_g3_750w_psu_is_now/ https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/5kl4v0/jonny_guru...
        mastazi 4y ago
        The Internet Archive is your friend: https://web.archive.org/web/20200702165629/http://www.jonnyguru.com/blog/2016/12/26/evga-supernova-750-g3-power-supply/ https://web.archive.org/web/20200702165629/http://www.jonnyg... It had a total score of 9.8 out of 10
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I think this was 78% of gross revenue. As OP stated, the GN video makes it clear that the margin on this was, in many cases, negative.

halotrope 4y ago
Thank you for the clarification!
avidphantasm 4y ago
Is pulling out of video cards now related to Etherium switching to POS? As in, downward pricing pressure for GPUs means they’ll never see positive margins in the foreseeable future? That combined with NVIDIA being hard to deal with makes it not worth it?
- IncRnd 4y ago
  Not in the slightest. Even if there were no crypto mining, videos cards would all still get purchased.
  - mbreese 4y ago
    Maybe… depends on how many they make. If there is an oversupply, margins will still suffer.
  - geraldwhen 4y ago
    Prices are in free fall and cards sit. 3090 ti is down to $1000 new. At the height of mining, a 3090 went for $3400.
paulmd 4y ago
> As OP stated, the GN video makes it clear that the margin on this was, in many cases, negative. No - the margin is in many cases negative, right now, with high-end GPUs 50% below MSRP. This is an important distinction. Margins were great for 2 years, EVGA's GPU department made tons of money during that time even with a few gestures towards the public. He lost tons of money during those years with frivolous, high-R&D, high-ongoing-support-cost ventures like entering the motherboard and enthusiast monitor market.

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jacooper 4y ago

But PSUs make 300% more profit.

biggc 4y ago
Maybe so, but I wonder how much of their PSU sales come from the excellent reputation of their GPUs.
- kemotep 4y ago
  When I bought my power supply several years ago, I went with the highest rated one from johnnyguru at the time which was an EVGA one. It is only one anecdote but at the time at least, the G3 EVGA power supply came highly recommended from johnnyguru with comprehensive tests completed.
  - SSLy 4y ago
    G2 was the only ever recommended, G3 had issues with some protection circuits.
    - kemotep 4y ago
      I do not remember that and this is the first I have heard of that issue. My G3 has had zero issues in 5 years of operation. Do you happen to have a link to that? Seeing as johnnyguru is not available as far as I can tell this is the only proof I have: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/5kl4v0/jonny_gurus_review_of_the_evga_g3_750w_psu_is_now/ https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/5kl4v0/jonny_guru...
      - mastazi 4y ago
        The Internet Archive is your friend: https://web.archive.org/web/20200702165629/http://www.jonnyguru.com/blog/2016/12/26/evga-supernova-750-g3-power-supply/ https://web.archive.org/web/20200702165629/http://www.jonnyg... It had a total score of 9.8 out of 10
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