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Love the reference. On a more serious note I'm really curious how this will play out. Nvidia seems to be doing it's best to prop up the prices of existing model

Love the reference. On a more serious note I'm really curious how this will play out. Nvidia seems to be doing it's best to prop up the prices of existing models as it prepares to launch the 4k series. The big question seems to be whether most of these miners will start mining some other token or get out of gpu mining entirely.

aosmith 4y ago
If the card has cuda support I would guess they're off to some sort of p2p AI / ML marketplace. Unfortunately AMD cards were actually better for mining. If anybody knows of something like vast.ai or render for AMD I'm all ears.
- capableweb 4y ago
  > they're off to some sort of p2p AI / ML marketplace Seems to be at least slightly true, by my amateur judgement. Sometimes I use https://vast.ai https://vast.ai, and seems there is more offers than usual, currently ~180 instances available for rent.
- asciimike 4y ago
  Morgenrot Cloud (https://morgenrot.cloud/ https://morgenrot.cloud/) is the main consumer grade AMD compute provider I know of. Not quite vast.ai in that they're centralized, but they've got the hardware.
KennyBlanken 4y ago
> Nvidia seems to be doing it's best to prop up the prices of existing models as it prepares to launch the 4k series. Not really, no: https://wccftech.com/hours-into-the-eth-merge-nvidia-geforce-amd-radeon-graphics-card-prices-hit-lowest-ever-3090-ti-drops-below-1000-usd/ https://wccftech.com/hours-into-the-eth-merge-nvidia-geforce... New 3000 series retail prices on the high end cards have been steadily dropping, and it seems like on ebay used prices have dropped 10% in the last month. As for the 4000 series cards - they've stated in SEC filings that they will be trickling out stock to keep prices high. AMD are the ones who are really fucked; their cards suck, and nobody bought them out of choice but desperation. Now that the market is glutted, people will heavily prefer nvidia cards.
- sofixa 4y ago
  > AMD are the ones who are really fucked; their cards suck, and nobody bought them out of choice but desperation. Do they really suck? From some benchmarks i saw there are cards comparable to 3060-3070s (the 6800 IIRC) which is solid midrange competition.
  - girvo 4y ago
    It depends on the game. Some games AMD cards blow Nvidia cards (of the same "tier") away, some it's the opposite. The GP commenter who said they "suck" is incredibly wrong. I can't understand people who fan-boy over giant corporations.
    - KennyBlanken 4y ago
      Since at least the Pascal microarchitecture NVIDIA has beaten AMD in performance per watt, and AMD is infamous for how unreliable and poorly performant their drivers are for Windows. AMD manages to do decently in benchmarks because they overclock and overvolt their cards with massive heatsinks and the cards last just long enough to run the benchmark before overheating and downvolting/downclocking. All of this is accepted industry fact, and your devolving the discussion to personal insults is proof of this; otherwise you would have come armed with actual tests and reviews.
      - consp 4y ago
        Yet I have non of these issues with a AMD card. Apparently I'm the only exception in the whole world considering it's industry fact.
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- TimeBearingDown 4y ago
  The last paragraph there about AMD seems completely baseless and overstated. NVIDIA does have much higher market share and brand recognition from both ML and gamers for now, but AMD has been firing on all cylinders for quite a few years, and has built a terrific open source driver codebase to further refine. Even throughout the 2010s AMD offered price-competitive models that definitely didn’t “suck” for what they cost, or require “desperation” to purchase.

aosmith 4y ago

If the card has cuda support I would guess they're off to some sort of p2p AI / ML marketplace. Unfortunately AMD cards were actually better for mining. If anybody knows of something like vast.ai or render for AMD I'm all ears.

capableweb 4y ago
> they're off to some sort of p2p AI / ML marketplace Seems to be at least slightly true, by my amateur judgement. Sometimes I use https://vast.ai https://vast.ai, and seems there is more offers than usual, currently ~180 instances available for rent.
asciimike 4y ago
Morgenrot Cloud (https://morgenrot.cloud/ https://morgenrot.cloud/) is the main consumer grade AMD compute provider I know of. Not quite vast.ai in that they're centralized, but they've got the hardware.

KennyBlanken 4y ago

> Nvidia seems to be doing it's best to prop up the prices of existing models as it prepares to launch the 4k series. Not really, no: https://wccftech.com/hours-into-the-eth-merge-nvidia-geforce-amd-radeon-graphics-card-prices-hit-lowest-ever-3090-ti-drops-below-1000-usd/ https://wccftech.com/hours-into-the-eth-merge-nvidia-geforce... New 3000 series retail prices on the high end cards have been steadily dropping, and it seems like on ebay used prices have dropped 10% in the last month. As for the 4000 series cards - they've stated in SEC filings that they will be trickling out stock to keep prices high. AMD are the ones who are really fucked; their cards suck, and nobody bought them out of choice but desperation. Now that the market is glutted, people will heavily prefer nvidia cards.

sofixa 4y ago
> AMD are the ones who are really fucked; their cards suck, and nobody bought them out of choice but desperation. Do they really suck? From some benchmarks i saw there are cards comparable to 3060-3070s (the 6800 IIRC) which is solid midrange competition.
- girvo 4y ago
  It depends on the game. Some games AMD cards blow Nvidia cards (of the same "tier") away, some it's the opposite. The GP commenter who said they "suck" is incredibly wrong. I can't understand people who fan-boy over giant corporations.
  - KennyBlanken 4y ago
    Since at least the Pascal microarchitecture NVIDIA has beaten AMD in performance per watt, and AMD is infamous for how unreliable and poorly performant their drivers are for Windows. AMD manages to do decently in benchmarks because they overclock and overvolt their cards with massive heatsinks and the cards last just long enough to run the benchmark before overheating and downvolting/downclocking. All of this is accepted industry fact, and your devolving the discussion to personal insults is proof of this; otherwise you would have come armed with actual tests and reviews.
    - consp 4y ago
      Yet I have non of these issues with a AMD card. Apparently I'm the only exception in the whole world considering it's industry fact.
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
TimeBearingDown 4y ago
The last paragraph there about AMD seems completely baseless and overstated. NVIDIA does have much higher market share and brand recognition from both ML and gamers for now, but AMD has been firing on all cylinders for quite a few years, and has built a terrific open source driver codebase to further refine. Even throughout the 2010s AMD offered price-competitive models that definitely didn’t “suck” for what they cost, or require “desperation” to purchase.