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Show HN: Use Dojo to learn, build, and deploy web apps
- kls 15y agoThe headline talked about using Dojo but the tutorial is 100% Sinatra and ROR. Is Dojo used in other tutorials or is the word Dojo just used because it is in the URL. The layout make it appear as if it is associated with the Dojo toolkit. I understand that Sinatra and ROR can be used with Dojo, but I feel the title and branding is misleading based on the fact that the tutorial contained no Dojo in it.
- kls 15y agoI don't know why I was downvoted the title says Use Dojo to learn, build, and deploy web apps. Some assume Dojo to be the Dojo Toolkit which can be used with Sinatra and ROR. Given that I am not a ROR developer I was confused as to why there was no Dojo involved.
- mrcharles 15y agoI'm not even a web developer, I just read HN a lot, and even I thought it was strange.
- duck 15y agoA coding dojo is a way to improve your skills and has nothing to do with any particular language or framework - see http://codingdojo.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WhatIsCodingDojo http://codingdojo.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WhatIsCodingDojo.
- kls 15y agoThank you, I have not hear the term used for that, most of the developers I associate with associate Dojo with the toolkit. Thank you for the info, and I apologize for the misunderstanding.
- rhizome 15y agoPeople (like me, too) are going to assume Dojo the framework over dojo-the-special-kind-of-room when there is no article (a/an/the) used. Capitalization makes a difference in the English language.
- simonw 15y agoI had the same confusion - I thought it was talking about http://dojotoolkit.org/ http://dojotoolkit.org/
- choxi 15y agoSorry about the confusion, it's totally unrelated to Dojo Toolkit
- kls 15y agoNo need to apologize, I just assumed from past references that it was in reference to the toolkit. Give the definition that was provided below, it makes sense, you may want to consider differentiating the logo and the header of the site a little so that you do distinguish yourself from the toolkit or you may deal with similar assumptions in the future.
- anm8tr 15y agoI would recommend using The Dojo or The DojoApp. The DojoApp is probably better as The Dojo is still not only competing with the toolkit but also with hundreds of karate sites.
- 2arrs2ells 15y agoThe intro tutorial is great! Just the right mix of brevity/content, and totally convinced me to sign up. Only suggestion - find a way to speed up the deployment process. It might just be the HN effect, but once I finish my first "app" - I want to see it in action, not stare at a spinner for a few minutes. EDIT: Looks like you're deploying to heroku, so I see why it takes more than a few seconds. It might be nice to tweak your UI, to encourage people to go through a tutorial while they wait for a deploy (rather than staring at a spinner).
- choxi 15y agoYep, the wait time is mostly from Heroku. Allowing people to continue the tutorial while it deploys is a good idea, reminds me of the article about Asynchronous UI a few days ago.
- rick888 15y agoDojo has already lost the battle. I used it for awhile and it is a cool framework. However, Jquery has it beat in terms of documentation (code and usage) and community support (I can find pretty much any component I need with Jquery).
- mitchellhislop 15y agoYou should take another look at the link - its all about ROR and Sinatra, not Dojo Toolkit.
- rick888 15y agoHow does this invalidate my point? The link title includes "Dojo" and I was stating my opinion. I see the Dojo fanbois have downvoted me.
- bmelton 15y agoThe people who realize that this isn't Dojo, the JS framework, and is instead Dojo, the Ruby Deployment Tool... they're the ones who downvoted you.
- rick888 15y agowell, it's not my fault. It's the fault of the person that named a ruby development tool "Dojo" when it's clear there was already a javascript framework with the same name. so..maybe they should be downvoting themselves? (like I have your responses)
- bmelton 15y agoAn equally compelling argument could be made that it is the fault of whomever didn't bother to read the article.
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- jamesbressi 15y agoIt was exciting. Yup, I sound like a complete dork, but for someone who just doesn't have the ability to pick up coding like he used to, this was great. A few explanations in the tutorial confused me from a complete novice standpoint, but I am really looking forward to the "Blog in 30 minutes"! Glad I signed up, and if I'm your target "customer" then feel free to email me if you want feedback, etc. I'd like to see something exactly like this for Objective C and developing iPhone apps.
- choxi 15y agowe'd love to get your feedback. i wasn't able to find your email, could you hit us up at founders[at]dojoapp.com?
- samdjohnson 15y agoThis is a great way to teach programmers a new framework or tool.
- moonlighter 15y agoWhile I understand that this isn't about the Dojo toolkit nor the fellow who submitted the post to it here (Thanks!), I can't help but feel that the folks who created this service made a real blunder by naming this thing "dojoapp" simply because of it's uncanny naming resemblance to the Dojo toolkit. Try to Google it; you get drowned in results to the toolkit, not their site. Mention it to anyone else and be sure about the resulting confusion. It's like creating a new service called BMWApp which then has nothing to do with the car...
- dhaivatpandya 15y agoI LOVE IT!
- leoedin 15y agoI enjoyed going through those tutorials, and I think I know more about Ruby now! What's the time scale on further tutorials? The platform (including the ability to deploy apps quickly and easily) is great! I'd be particularly interested in the node.js tutorials that are tantalisingly listed on your site.
- jaryd 15y agotwitter bootstrap for the design win?
- dlf 15y agoI really like this. It'd be great to see some Python tutorials though.