> nearby state schools Are Ivies near any of the generally top tier state schools ? My intuition was that the best state schools were near Chicago and in Calif

> nearby state schools Are Ivies near any of the generally top tier state schools ? My intuition was that the best state schools were near Chicago and in California. I do feel like state schools do outcompete nearby 'prestige' private schools in those two regions. UPenn -> Maryland Cornell -> Buffalo Harvard, Dartmouth -> UMass Yale, Brown -> UConn Columbia -> SUNY Stony brook Princeton -> Rutgers ________ I know UMass, Rutgers and UMaryland have strong CS & Engineering programs. Dunno much about the other schools or other programs though.