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Just curious, but if you "jumped ship", where would you go? I'm also about at the end of my rope with Spotify and the others I've tried, like to the point wher

Just curious, but if you "jumped ship", where would you go? I'm also about at the end of my rope with Spotify and the others I've tried, like to the point where I'm about ready to switch back to ripping CD's and putting tracks on my phone or an Ipod but I would sorely miss the recommendation algorithm, even as bad as it is. What other streaming service is even comparable?

_mhr_ 4y ago
I've found YouTube Music to be quite good!
- shaftway 4y ago
  I've found the exact opposite. - The "radio" feature sucks I used the radio station feature of Play Music heavily to find new stuff. If I asked for a radio station of The Cure I'd get a nice variety of 80's music matching the genre with The Cure about every 6-8 songs. When I asked YouTube Music for a radio station based on The Cure I get 17 out of the first 30 tracks were The Cure. - It has a habit of losing tracks I think what happens is that your band releases a remastered version of a song that's almost identical. The old song is removed from the catalog and the new song is added, but playlists only get the removal, so the track just disappears. - It's unclear what I can play where There are a variety of tracks that have different usage abilities. Some songs can be played locally, but can't be cast. So when I create a playlist and then cast it to my Google Home, some tracks just won't play. So why do I still have it? It's cheap for a family (since all members get it) and it's bundled with YouTube Premium, so I don't get YouTube ads. I've forgotten that ads even run on YouTube, to the point that it's a jarring experience when I see them on somebody else's screen.
  - the_only_law 4y ago
    > It's unclear what I can play where This seems to be a feature of YouTube in general. I can’t count how many times I’ve been “unable to view a YouTube kids video in MiniPlayer” for a video that’s definitely not for kids.
  - collegeburner 4y ago
    yt music radio also seems to "converge" toward the top 100 songs. like recommending jack harlow on an art blakely radio station or doja cat on the beach boys is goofy ash and i've had both happen.
rozenmd 4y ago
I jumped ship to an ipod and ripping my CDs - big box electronics shops dump albums for 5 euros each, decent stuff to be found. Would recommend tbh.
mrobins 4y ago
I don’t know but I’m interested in trying Qobuz. They have supposedly personalized recommendations but I don’t know if they’re any good or algorithmic vs editorial. That said one of the main appeals is they’re just focused on music rather than all audio or being one part of a giant bundle.
novafacing 4y ago
I have some suggestions. Now, I'm a bit of an audiophile and also I'm willing to deal with amounts of jank that others find intolerable. YMMV. I use Deezer as a music service. It's $15/month for HiFi comparable to Tidal's HiFi subscription. Tidal, however, has DRM that does not allow it to play on Linux as a webapp nor does it have a Linux desktop app. Tidal's out. Now, here's the interesting thing: I never use Deezer to listen to music. - I use Deemix Server (https://download.deemix.app/server/ https://download.deemix.app/server/) to serve a webapp on my media server. This plugs into my Deezer account and I use it to download FLAC quality audio into my media server. - My media server, of course, runs Plex (https://www.plex.tv/ https://www.plex.tv/). I have a lifetime pass and it's totally worth it, but keep in mind it is required for this setup. - Locally on my (phone|laptop|desktop) I use Plexamp (https://plexamp.com/ https://plexamp.com/). Plexamp is a beautiful high quality player with no bells and whistles but does one thing really well and that's play my music. - Since this is all offline playing downloaded files, I use last.fm which plugs into both Deezer (https://blog.last.fm/2012/01/06/scrobble-with-deezer https://blog.last.fm/2012/01/06/scrobble-with-deezer) and Plex (https://www.plex.tv/blog/plex-media-server-v0-9-12-5-a-tasty-update/ https://www.plex.tv/blog/plex-media-server-v0-9-12-5-a-tasty...) for recommendations, tracking listening, and connecting with friends. Honorable mention to MusicButler (musicbutler.io) which used to be free and simply notifies you of new releases for a "Release Radar" experience. All this combines to be a less seamless but far better experience than using spotify.
dangravell 4y ago
Disclaimer: this is about the commercial service I operate. I run a service, https://asti.ga https://asti.ga , which is a "third way" - a streaming service for your own music. You stream your music from cloud storage services, of which you can pick your own (the biggies are supported - Google Drive, OneDrive, Dropbox etc etc). Let me know if you have any questions or feedback!

_mhr_ 4y ago

I've found YouTube Music to be quite good!

shaftway 4y ago
I've found the exact opposite. - The "radio" feature sucks I used the radio station feature of Play Music heavily to find new stuff. If I asked for a radio station of The Cure I'd get a nice variety of 80's music matching the genre with The Cure about every 6-8 songs. When I asked YouTube Music for a radio station based on The Cure I get 17 out of the first 30 tracks were The Cure. - It has a habit of losing tracks I think what happens is that your band releases a remastered version of a song that's almost identical. The old song is removed from the catalog and the new song is added, but playlists only get the removal, so the track just disappears. - It's unclear what I can play where There are a variety of tracks that have different usage abilities. Some songs can be played locally, but can't be cast. So when I create a playlist and then cast it to my Google Home, some tracks just won't play. So why do I still have it? It's cheap for a family (since all members get it) and it's bundled with YouTube Premium, so I don't get YouTube ads. I've forgotten that ads even run on YouTube, to the point that it's a jarring experience when I see them on somebody else's screen.
- the_only_law 4y ago
  > It's unclear what I can play where This seems to be a feature of YouTube in general. I can’t count how many times I’ve been “unable to view a YouTube kids video in MiniPlayer” for a video that’s definitely not for kids.
- collegeburner 4y ago
  yt music radio also seems to "converge" toward the top 100 songs. like recommending jack harlow on an art blakely radio station or doja cat on the beach boys is goofy ash and i've had both happen.

rozenmd 4y ago

I jumped ship to an ipod and ripping my CDs - big box electronics shops dump albums for 5 euros each, decent stuff to be found. Would recommend tbh.

mrobins 4y ago

I don’t know but I’m interested in trying Qobuz. They have supposedly personalized recommendations but I don’t know if they’re any good or algorithmic vs editorial. That said one of the main appeals is they’re just focused on music rather than all audio or being one part of a giant bundle.

novafacing 4y ago

I have some suggestions. Now, I'm a bit of an audiophile and also I'm willing to deal with amounts of jank that others find intolerable. YMMV. I use Deezer as a music service. It's $15/month for HiFi comparable to Tidal's HiFi subscription. Tidal, however, has DRM that does not allow it to play on Linux as a webapp nor does it have a Linux desktop app. Tidal's out. Now, here's the interesting thing: I never use Deezer to listen to music. - I use Deemix Server (https://download.deemix.app/server/ https://download.deemix.app/server/) to serve a webapp on my media server. This plugs into my Deezer account and I use it to download FLAC quality audio into my media server. - My media server, of course, runs Plex (https://www.plex.tv/ https://www.plex.tv/). I have a lifetime pass and it's totally worth it, but keep in mind it is required for this setup. - Locally on my (phone|laptop|desktop) I use Plexamp (https://plexamp.com/ https://plexamp.com/). Plexamp is a beautiful high quality player with no bells and whistles but does one thing really well and that's play my music. - Since this is all offline playing downloaded files, I use last.fm which plugs into both Deezer (https://blog.last.fm/2012/01/06/scrobble-with-deezer https://blog.last.fm/2012/01/06/scrobble-with-deezer) and Plex (https://www.plex.tv/blog/plex-media-server-v0-9-12-5-a-tasty-update/ https://www.plex.tv/blog/plex-media-server-v0-9-12-5-a-tasty...) for recommendations, tracking listening, and connecting with friends. Honorable mention to MusicButler (musicbutler.io) which used to be free and simply notifies you of new releases for a "Release Radar" experience. All this combines to be a less seamless but far better experience than using spotify.

dangravell 4y ago

Disclaimer: this is about the commercial service I operate. I run a service, https://asti.ga https://asti.ga , which is a "third way" - a streaming service for your own music. You stream your music from cloud storage services, of which you can pick your own (the biggies are supported - Google Drive, OneDrive, Dropbox etc etc). Let me know if you have any questions or feedback!