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Google I/O 2012 extended to 3 days, moved to June 27-29

32 points by ben1040 15y ago

moses1400 15y ago
There should really be an explanation posted. I also wonder how they will deal with those people who already booked travel and now have to pay high fees to change their travel bookings.
- arron61 15y ago
  who books travel 6 months in advance? You haven't even gotten your tickets yet.
  - iamandrus 15y ago
    I'm a student and I need to make sure I'm not missing any summer classes I may be taking. Also, some people work and may have to notify their supers early.
    - packetslave 15y ago
      If you have to notify your "super" six months in advance to get 3 days off, it's long past time to find a new job!
    - esrauch 15y ago
      What if you don't manage to get a ticket at all?
tomx 15y ago
"In the meantime, be sure to brush up on your coding skills. They’ll come in handy when the new application process opens in February." Perhaps tickets will be sold or prioritised by some coding problems?
- dotBen 15y ago
  Last year a lot of non-developers bought tickets just to scoop up the free goodies that Google gives out. My guess is yes, they will use a code problem or similar to filter out developers from carpet-baggers.
  - mrsebastian 15y ago
    I hope they apply this to tech bloggers/writers, too.
  - geebee 15y ago
    yeah, a buddy of mine who is a lawyer working in real estate said he wanted to register the next year because of the free phones. I just figured they should create a registration category for "no freebies." Seriously, I don't need the phone. Just wanted to attend the conference.
    - kbutler 15y ago
      But you are the target demographic for the phone distribution - someone who is actually interested in and developing with the tech is a better development placement for a freebie phone than someone who wants a freebie phone.
- libria 15y ago
  I believe Google Developer Day 2011 required a coding challenge and the Last Call for Google IO 2011 also allowed around 100 developers free attendance for a successful coding entry. Here's some study material: https://sites.google.com/site/opencallforgdd/ https://sites.google.com/site/opencallforgdd/ https://sites.google.com/site/lastcallforio2011/Home https://sites.google.com/site/lastcallforio2011/Home
- ben1040 15y ago
  They do have to do something, because for I/O 2011 people were buying $450 tickets and immediately listing them on eBay for $1500+. Meanwhile, other actual developers just plain couldn't get in. But, I do hope that whatever coding problems will be simply whatever is necessary to rule out scalpers who don't know squat about programming, and not to require people to build full-blown apps or the like. If you have to jump through some flaming hoops to get in, I worry that they're not going to be as welcoming to "noobs" as they had in years past. Google's offered "Boot Camp" in the past with tutorial sessions, on tech like Android and HTML5 to get you from zero to a point where you can get value out of the main conference sessions. They also gave some pretty substantial academic discounts to get students in the door, too. If you are inexperienced with the featured tech, but you genuinely want to learn, you could still get some serious value out of the talks there. I didn't know the first thing about Android development prior to going to I/O 2010, and a month or so later I had a polished app to put on the market. I wonder if the coding challenge will be something to pre-qualify you to be able to buy a ticket -- maybe you will have to write some code to pass some automated test case that's personalized to you, so you can't just Google for the solution.
buro9 15y ago
Silly question, but: "Continue following us at our Google Developers page on Google+ to be the first to get #io12 updates!" which links off to here: https://plus.google.com/111395306401981598462/posts https://plus.google.com/111395306401981598462/posts How do you follow something on G+? Do you have to add the page to your circles? If so, that's plain old weird... I follow people, not pages or abstract things. Or is just to +1 it? If so, that's plain old weird... +1 is just a "Hear hear!" or implicit share, but it's not a "Send me updates, keep me informed.". I could well be wrong on both of those assumptions, but I don't get it, the sentence didn't even make sense. What are you supposed to "do" with a G+ page? edit: I think they mean "Add to Circles"... but I've just scrolled down and with tens of updates today alone, they just come over as spamming, flooding jerks and aren't being added to any circle of mine any time soon. Why can't a company just provide a low-noise, "just the facts ma'am" info list.
- martythemaniak 15y ago
  You add it to a circle. Why should you only have people in your circles?
  - buro9 15y ago
    It's a social network isn't it? I'm only really social with people. I'm not on Facebook, so if they're importing the concept of being social with abstract things from there then it just went whooosh, straight over my head.
    - thezilch 15y ago
      The idea is to follow the updates of an entity, where Google I/O is going to be run by more than one person, all of which could and should provide updates for the single entity. Would you rather follow the updates of otherwise disconnected employees of Google who happen to have updates for Google I/O? Who's to say the updates are even from Google employees and not out-sourced organizer? Should we really request the organizers to use their personal accounts to give updates for the event, while disinterested followers -- friends, family, or otherwise -- are inundated with Google I/O updates? You can grind your Facebook axe elsewhere, but unless you have a useful solution to add to your problem, can you grind your unrelated axe elsewhere?
smoody 15y ago
If I had to guess, I'd say that they moved the date so they could closely follow Apple's WWDC conference instead of happening a month before it as it has in the past. That way a) they can get the last-word press-wise and b) the can make last minute decisions about what to announce depending on what Apple announces at WWDC -- perhaps even pre-announce vaporware to counter Apple's surprise announcement. :-) It looks like IO will follow WWDC by 12 days this year if the WWDC date speculation is correct.

32 points by ben1040 15y ago

There should really be an explanation posted. I also wonder how they will deal with those people who already booked travel and now have to pay high fees to change their travel bookings.

arron61 15y ago
who books travel 6 months in advance? You haven't even gotten your tickets yet.
- iamandrus 15y ago
  I'm a student and I need to make sure I'm not missing any summer classes I may be taking. Also, some people work and may have to notify their supers early.
  - packetslave 15y ago
    If you have to notify your "super" six months in advance to get 3 days off, it's long past time to find a new job!
  - esrauch 15y ago
    What if you don't manage to get a ticket at all?

tomx 15y ago

"In the meantime, be sure to brush up on your coding skills. They’ll come in handy when the new application process opens in February." Perhaps tickets will be sold or prioritised by some coding problems?

dotBen 15y ago
Last year a lot of non-developers bought tickets just to scoop up the free goodies that Google gives out. My guess is yes, they will use a code problem or similar to filter out developers from carpet-baggers.
- mrsebastian 15y ago
  I hope they apply this to tech bloggers/writers, too.
- geebee 15y ago
  yeah, a buddy of mine who is a lawyer working in real estate said he wanted to register the next year because of the free phones. I just figured they should create a registration category for "no freebies." Seriously, I don't need the phone. Just wanted to attend the conference.
  - kbutler 15y ago
    But you are the target demographic for the phone distribution - someone who is actually interested in and developing with the tech is a better development placement for a freebie phone than someone who wants a freebie phone.
libria 15y ago
I believe Google Developer Day 2011 required a coding challenge and the Last Call for Google IO 2011 also allowed around 100 developers free attendance for a successful coding entry. Here's some study material: https://sites.google.com/site/opencallforgdd/ https://sites.google.com/site/opencallforgdd/ https://sites.google.com/site/lastcallforio2011/Home https://sites.google.com/site/lastcallforio2011/Home
ben1040 15y ago
They do have to do something, because for I/O 2011 people were buying $450 tickets and immediately listing them on eBay for $1500+. Meanwhile, other actual developers just plain couldn't get in. But, I do hope that whatever coding problems will be simply whatever is necessary to rule out scalpers who don't know squat about programming, and not to require people to build full-blown apps or the like. If you have to jump through some flaming hoops to get in, I worry that they're not going to be as welcoming to "noobs" as they had in years past. Google's offered "Boot Camp" in the past with tutorial sessions, on tech like Android and HTML5 to get you from zero to a point where you can get value out of the main conference sessions. They also gave some pretty substantial academic discounts to get students in the door, too. If you are inexperienced with the featured tech, but you genuinely want to learn, you could still get some serious value out of the talks there. I didn't know the first thing about Android development prior to going to I/O 2010, and a month or so later I had a polished app to put on the market. I wonder if the coding challenge will be something to pre-qualify you to be able to buy a ticket -- maybe you will have to write some code to pass some automated test case that's personalized to you, so you can't just Google for the solution.

buro9 15y ago

Silly question, but: "Continue following us at our Google Developers page on Google+ to be the first to get #io12 updates!" which links off to here: https://plus.google.com/111395306401981598462/posts https://plus.google.com/111395306401981598462/posts How do you follow something on G+? Do you have to add the page to your circles? If so, that's plain old weird... I follow people, not pages or abstract things. Or is just to +1 it? If so, that's plain old weird... +1 is just a "Hear hear!" or implicit share, but it's not a "Send me updates, keep me informed.". I could well be wrong on both of those assumptions, but I don't get it, the sentence didn't even make sense. What are you supposed to "do" with a G+ page? edit: I think they mean "Add to Circles"... but I've just scrolled down and with tens of updates today alone, they just come over as spamming, flooding jerks and aren't being added to any circle of mine any time soon. Why can't a company just provide a low-noise, "just the facts ma'am" info list.

martythemaniak 15y ago
You add it to a circle. Why should you only have people in your circles?
- buro9 15y ago
  It's a social network isn't it? I'm only really social with people. I'm not on Facebook, so if they're importing the concept of being social with abstract things from there then it just went whooosh, straight over my head.
  - thezilch 15y ago
    The idea is to follow the updates of an entity, where Google I/O is going to be run by more than one person, all of which could and should provide updates for the single entity. Would you rather follow the updates of otherwise disconnected employees of Google who happen to have updates for Google I/O? Who's to say the updates are even from Google employees and not out-sourced organizer? Should we really request the organizers to use their personal accounts to give updates for the event, while disinterested followers -- friends, family, or otherwise -- are inundated with Google I/O updates? You can grind your Facebook axe elsewhere, but unless you have a useful solution to add to your problem, can you grind your unrelated axe elsewhere?

smoody 15y ago

If I had to guess, I'd say that they moved the date so they could closely follow Apple's WWDC conference instead of happening a month before it as it has in the past. That way a) they can get the last-word press-wise and b) the can make last minute decisions about what to announce depending on what Apple announces at WWDC -- perhaps even pre-announce vaporware to counter Apple's surprise announcement. :-) It looks like IO will follow WWDC by 12 days this year if the WWDC date speculation is correct.