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Welcome to our high tech cyber punk dystopia. Tent slums in the worlds richest cities, rampant opiate use and food delivery robots. All we need is someone to s

Welcome to our high tech cyber punk dystopia. Tent slums in the worlds richest cities, rampant opiate use and food delivery robots. All we need is someone to start barcoding fentanyl zombies and it's a 1970s movie.

aaron695 4y ago
feet 4y ago
What is a fentanyl zombie?
- KBeyo 4y ago
  https://youtube.com/shorts/JxgCa_QOU0s?feature=share https://youtube.com/shorts/JxgCa_QOU0s?feature=share https://youtube.com/shorts/Y7JCjb8Mmv8?feature=share https://youtube.com/shorts/Y7JCjb8Mmv8?feature=share
  - feet 4y ago
    What is the evidence that fentanyl is the drug in use?
    - wheelinsupial 4y ago
      What evidence will convince you it's fentanyl?
      - feet 4y ago
        Some sort of reporting that affirmatively associates the behavior with a specific compound such as arrests or health records. Arrest records would likely not include confounding factors such as mental health issues, which also can determine abnormal behaviors in dual diagnosis scenarios. Possibly recorded interviews with the people exhibiting the behaviors would also be acceptable Anything less is an assumption based on rumor
        wheelinsupial 4y ago
        Will you accept a description of the effects of fentanyl from a government website? https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/substance-use/controlled-illegal-drugs/fentanyl.html https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/substance-us... "Mental effects Fentanyl causes: dizziness confusion going "on the nod" (being in and out of consciousness) Physical effects Besides strong pain relief, fentanyl produces effects such as: drowsiness slow breathing nausea and vomiting smaller (constricted) pupils itching or warm/hot sensation on the skin" I think the mental effects cover what was shown in the videos provided by the other commenter. Here is a video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVtvp59xue4&t=884s&t=14m44s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVtvp59xue4&t=884s&t=14m44s) of someone "nodding off" or doing the "Hastings Shuffle." There are two people being interviewed who said that's what they look like when they've taken heroin. They went on to describe taking fentanyl and almost dying. Fentanyl is an opioid like heroin but it's much more powerful. If you don't die or overdose, then you'll be shuffling around. This video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgEdyvxwcvQ&t=5m45s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgEdyvxwcvQ&t=5m45s) has two examples of people injecting drugs at a safe injection site and appearing to "nod off." One slumped over a chair around 5 m 50 seconds and another around 6 m 10 seconds. edit to add another video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ojeXgyAu0&t=2m8s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ojeXgyAu0&t=2m8s this one is fucked up but shows someone injecting and then the after effects. They think it's heroin, but the narrator says it could be fentanyl and they can't know for sure. Around 3:30 is the after effects. Probably not convincing because you don't really see what the drug they are using is and you don't see them stick the needle in their arm or press the plunger. I don't have crime stats because they don't arrest people for drug possession or even giving it away for free where I am. (https://www.straight.com/news/vancouver-police-department-defends-decision-not-to-arrest-city-councillor-for-distributing https://www.straight.com/news/vancouver-police-department-de...) There are lots of mental health problems and other contributing factors of people who use street drugs, including using drugs that aren't pure. We have coroners reports on deaths with fenatnyl and other drugs in the deceased. https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/birth-adoption-death-marriage-and-divorce/deaths/coroners-service/statistical/illicit-drug.pdf https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/birth-adoption-death-marri... But that doesn't discuss the behavior. I don't think the behavior is solely attributable to fentanyl, but it does contribute to a fair bit of it since it's in so much of the supply. Anyway, there is lots out there if you're interested in searching more.
joemazerino 4y ago
I think about this all the time and I'm surprised I'm present on the earth to view it.

aaron695 4y ago

feet 4y ago

What is a fentanyl zombie?

KBeyo 4y ago
https://youtube.com/shorts/JxgCa_QOU0s?feature=share https://youtube.com/shorts/JxgCa_QOU0s?feature=share https://youtube.com/shorts/Y7JCjb8Mmv8?feature=share https://youtube.com/shorts/Y7JCjb8Mmv8?feature=share
- feet 4y ago
  What is the evidence that fentanyl is the drug in use?
  - wheelinsupial 4y ago
    What evidence will convince you it's fentanyl?
    - feet 4y ago
      Some sort of reporting that affirmatively associates the behavior with a specific compound such as arrests or health records. Arrest records would likely not include confounding factors such as mental health issues, which also can determine abnormal behaviors in dual diagnosis scenarios. Possibly recorded interviews with the people exhibiting the behaviors would also be acceptable Anything less is an assumption based on rumor
      - wheelinsupial 4y ago
        Will you accept a description of the effects of fentanyl from a government website? https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/substance-use/controlled-illegal-drugs/fentanyl.html https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/substance-us... "Mental effects Fentanyl causes: dizziness confusion going "on the nod" (being in and out of consciousness) Physical effects Besides strong pain relief, fentanyl produces effects such as: drowsiness slow breathing nausea and vomiting smaller (constricted) pupils itching or warm/hot sensation on the skin" I think the mental effects cover what was shown in the videos provided by the other commenter. Here is a video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVtvp59xue4&t=884s&t=14m44s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVtvp59xue4&t=884s&t=14m44s) of someone "nodding off" or doing the "Hastings Shuffle." There are two people being interviewed who said that's what they look like when they've taken heroin. They went on to describe taking fentanyl and almost dying. Fentanyl is an opioid like heroin but it's much more powerful. If you don't die or overdose, then you'll be shuffling around. This video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgEdyvxwcvQ&t=5m45s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgEdyvxwcvQ&t=5m45s) has two examples of people injecting drugs at a safe injection site and appearing to "nod off." One slumped over a chair around 5 m 50 seconds and another around 6 m 10 seconds. edit to add another video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ojeXgyAu0&t=2m8s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ojeXgyAu0&t=2m8s this one is fucked up but shows someone injecting and then the after effects. They think it's heroin, but the narrator says it could be fentanyl and they can't know for sure. Around 3:30 is the after effects. Probably not convincing because you don't really see what the drug they are using is and you don't see them stick the needle in their arm or press the plunger. I don't have crime stats because they don't arrest people for drug possession or even giving it away for free where I am. (https://www.straight.com/news/vancouver-police-department-defends-decision-not-to-arrest-city-councillor-for-distributing https://www.straight.com/news/vancouver-police-department-de...) There are lots of mental health problems and other contributing factors of people who use street drugs, including using drugs that aren't pure. We have coroners reports on deaths with fenatnyl and other drugs in the deceased. https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/birth-adoption-death-marriage-and-divorce/deaths/coroners-service/statistical/illicit-drug.pdf https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/birth-adoption-death-marri... But that doesn't discuss the behavior. I don't think the behavior is solely attributable to fentanyl, but it does contribute to a fair bit of it since it's in so much of the supply. Anyway, there is lots out there if you're interested in searching more.

joemazerino 4y ago

I think about this all the time and I'm surprised I'm present on the earth to view it.