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Nah, it was totally common, at least in Europe - and way past medieval ages. Come to Czechia and visit literally any random castle - there's archeological evide

Nah, it was totally common, at least in Europe - and way past medieval ages. Come to Czechia and visit literally any random castle - there's archeological evidence of brutal torture at practically every single one (and there are dozens/hundreds). There are rooms and rooms full of original torture instruments as well as marks of usage on them. Every castle has at least the "hladomorna" - a deep pit where they threw a person and then forgot about them until they died of starvation. Very extensive torture dungeons with elaborate machinery are usual too. And the books that mention it are less literature and more administrative records.

lostlogin 4y ago
> Nah, it was totally common, at least in Europe - and way past medieval ages. Reading about Ukraine and what’s being found in liberated towns, it’s not hard to agree.
- WHATDOESIT 4y ago
  Well, the 20th century communist torture chambers are a sight in its own class. The Nazi ones too, of course - but the communists had 40 years to do their shit.
- trhway 4y ago
  That is what found. It seems it is only a part as FSB widely practices electric shock torture for example, so not many traces left on otherwise reasonably looking bodies (also mobile crematoriums are in use there, so not much is going to be found in many cases at all, especially after Bucha as they know that Ukraine may take the territories back - the option the Russians in Bucha and everywhere else seem to have been dismissing back then in March).
paganel 4y ago
Even during the late 1700s the enlightened Habsburgs were still using breaking on the wheel for some of their public executions. Case in point the Romanian revolt of Horea, Cloșca and Crișan [1], in 1784-85. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolt_of_Horea,_Clo%C8%99ca_and_Cri%C8%99an#The_revolt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolt_of_Horea,_Clo%C8%99ca_a...
- WHATDOESIT 4y ago
  Indeed - even the late 18th century national revival romanticists thought it's important to create a special word in the language for each of the hundreds of different kinds of torture instruments and ways of torture.

lostlogin 4y ago

> Nah, it was totally common, at least in Europe - and way past medieval ages. Reading about Ukraine and what’s being found in liberated towns, it’s not hard to agree.

WHATDOESIT 4y ago
Well, the 20th century communist torture chambers are a sight in its own class. The Nazi ones too, of course - but the communists had 40 years to do their shit.
trhway 4y ago
That is what found. It seems it is only a part as FSB widely practices electric shock torture for example, so not many traces left on otherwise reasonably looking bodies (also mobile crematoriums are in use there, so not much is going to be found in many cases at all, especially after Bucha as they know that Ukraine may take the territories back - the option the Russians in Bucha and everywhere else seem to have been dismissing back then in March).

paganel 4y ago

Even during the late 1700s the enlightened Habsburgs were still using breaking on the wheel for some of their public executions. Case in point the Romanian revolt of Horea, Cloșca and Crișan [1], in 1784-85. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolt_of_Horea,_Clo%C8%99ca_and_Cri%C8%99an#The_revolt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolt_of_Horea,_Clo%C8%99ca_a...

WHATDOESIT 4y ago
Indeed - even the late 18th century national revival romanticists thought it's important to create a special word in the language for each of the hundreds of different kinds of torture instruments and ways of torture.