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Apple: "If you want to sideload, buy an Android" Also Apple: "If you want to text Grandma, buy an iPhone" My read into that: "People who run unreviewed code o

Apple: "If you want to sideload, buy an Android" Also Apple: "If you want to text Grandma, buy an iPhone" My read into that: "People who run unreviewed code on their smartphones are so dangerous that we need to socially ostracize them from their parents"

fingerlocks 4y ago
You can sideload on an iphone for a mere $8.33 a month purchase of a developer profile. This myth needs to end. Yes, there's some friction- you do have to compile the project first- but seriously clone-compile-install can be done in two shell commands. You can even run a coveted JIT compiler and install non-safari browser.[0] [0] https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/ios/build_instructions.md https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/i...
- Semaphor 4y ago
  > You can sideload on an iphone for a mere $8.33 a month What a take. Pay us every month to be able to own your device. We’ll take it back if you stop paying. At not even a small payment, that’s over twice what I pay for my, admittedly very cheap, contract.
  - fingerlocks 4y ago
    You do own the device. You can jailbreak and install whatever you want. The payment grants you software access to system calls that are blocked by apps installed from the AppStore and has nothing to do with the underlying hardware.
- WirelessGigabit 4y ago
- Ekaros 4y ago
  That seems horribly expensive so just in 50 years of use I would have to pay nearly 5000 more... Insanity.
- fmajid 4y ago
  You don’t even need a profile to sideload any more, just Xcode, which does mean owning a Mac. https://9to5mac.com/2016/03/27/how-to-create-free-apple-developer-account-sideload-apps/ https://9to5mac.com/2016/03/27/how-to-create-free-apple-deve...
- kmeisthax 4y ago
  You're technically correct, and I have actually installed things like AltStore on my iPad in the past. However, I suspect those things exist moreso because Apple would find it too onerous to destroy them. In fact, the JIT compiler thing requires having an active debugger connection from another machine. But they could and would change if they were pressured to: say, by Epic Games deciding to release a Fortnite IPA for sideloading via AltStore. They would absolutely either end free dev certs or ban people who provision other people's code. "No sideloading" is policy, not capability. If Apple feels like their policy is being violated, they will shrink capability to match.

fingerlocks 4y ago

You can sideload on an iphone for a mere $8.33 a month purchase of a developer profile. This myth needs to end. Yes, there's some friction- you do have to compile the project first- but seriously clone-compile-install can be done in two shell commands. You can even run a coveted JIT compiler and install non-safari browser.[0] [0] https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/ios/build_instructions.md https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/i...

Semaphor 4y ago
> You can sideload on an iphone for a mere $8.33 a month What a take. Pay us every month to be able to own your device. We’ll take it back if you stop paying. At not even a small payment, that’s over twice what I pay for my, admittedly very cheap, contract.
- fingerlocks 4y ago
  You do own the device. You can jailbreak and install whatever you want. The payment grants you software access to system calls that are blocked by apps installed from the AppStore and has nothing to do with the underlying hardware.
WirelessGigabit 4y ago
Ekaros 4y ago
That seems horribly expensive so just in 50 years of use I would have to pay nearly 5000 more... Insanity.
fmajid 4y ago
You don’t even need a profile to sideload any more, just Xcode, which does mean owning a Mac. https://9to5mac.com/2016/03/27/how-to-create-free-apple-developer-account-sideload-apps/ https://9to5mac.com/2016/03/27/how-to-create-free-apple-deve...
kmeisthax 4y ago
You're technically correct, and I have actually installed things like AltStore on my iPad in the past. However, I suspect those things exist moreso because Apple would find it too onerous to destroy them. In fact, the JIT compiler thing requires having an active debugger connection from another machine. But they could and would change if they were pressured to: say, by Epic Games deciding to release a Fortnite IPA for sideloading via AltStore. They would absolutely either end free dev certs or ban people who provision other people's code. "No sideloading" is policy, not capability. If Apple feels like their policy is being violated, they will shrink capability to match.