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Why does anyone put up with ads? Install uBlock Origin → no ads. Also, if you install SponsorBlock then at least for popular videos you will probably never see

by db48x 4y ago

Why does anyone put up with ads? Install uBlock Origin → no ads. Also, if you install SponsorBlock then at least for popular videos you will probably never see an ad from a video creator either. You can even have it skip self–promotional segments (Subscribe Now!), repetitive animations and intro sequences, credits, previews, etc.

Nas808 4y ago
That works well on a desktop browser, but the YouTube ads are still a problem on iOS and other platforms like smart TVS, Roku or Chromecast/Google TV.
- Snuupy 4y ago
  smarttubenext for Google TV
- db48x 4y ago
  I don’t have much sympathy. When you bought those you gave up your ability to run your own software on them. That’s really why they sell them.
- impulser_ 4y ago
  You could just buy YouTube premium. Cancel Spotify, buy YouTube premium. Get both ad free videos and music on the same platform.
  - UpstandingUser 4y ago
    Or I could rip my legally purchased* CDs and give the finger to the leeches and rent seekers that fuck us almost as hard as they do the artists. Yes I support corporate genocide. * lol
  - colinmhayes 4y ago
    youtube premium is not a spotify replacement. Youtube is in no way built to be a music playback app.
    - themelodyfarm 4y ago
      “music playback app”? YouTube is at least as good as the vinyl record player. It is also the sole location for countless live audio/video recordings of musical performance. It works fine as a “music playback app” and is, to emphasize, an _awesome_ and convenient resource of live music performance.
    - Crash0v3rid3 4y ago
      That's why every YouTube premium subscription includes YouTube music which is a decent Spotify replacement.
- vgeek 4y ago
  Pihole with ad blocking or an OpenWRT (or really any router) router with ad blocking DNS is an alternative.
  - Nas808 4y ago
    The YouTube ads defeat DNS sinkholes because the ads are served from the same domain(s) as the content.
    - vgeek 4y ago
      Can they evade uBo, too? I had a stretch where I was getting them in FF with uBo & Privacy badger, even after updating all rules, but then they started being blocked again on their own.
  - colinmhayes 4y ago
    iOS can do DNS adblocking natively. https://adguard.com/en/blog/encrypted-dns-ios-14.html https://adguard.com/en/blog/encrypted-dns-ios-14.html Doesn't work for youtube because they're serving the ads first party.
- christophilus 4y ago
  > YouTube ads are still a problem on iOS Not for me. (Typed from iOS + Brave.)
- AdamJacobMuller 4y ago
  https://smarttubenext.com/ https://smarttubenext.com/ on Android TV (I use an nvidia shield) works great. In-video youtube sponsors were some of the last advertising I was exposed to. Glad to be rid of them.
- timbit42 4y ago
  On Android you can use Firefox with Ublock Origin. I wish SponsorBlock was available though. The NewPipe Android app is another option and there is a fork that includes SponsorBlock: https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe/releases https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe/releases
silvertaza 4y ago
It's probably apt to ask yourself what sort of revenue model you prefer to support for the value provided. YouTube is a rare case where they offer multiple options.
- db48x 4y ago
  Meh. Most videos on the web are crap. Having advertising makes some kinds of crap worse. And even if all advertising revenue went away, enthusiasts will always post videos for fun. In fact most videos don’t earn any significant advertising revenue. Personally advertising is a high cost to myself that I am not willing to pay. I even avoid restaurants that have televisions, or that play a radio station instead of buying music that has no advertising in it. (I also frequent a couple of places that are willing to leave the music off for me, at least early in the day before the lunch rush, and one that doesn’t play music at all. That’s a different story though.)
  - space_fountain 4y ago
    The videos that don’t make money are the unpopular ones. Are they the ones you watch? Have you listened to the content creators you do consume and what they have to say about doing it for the joy of it all
    - db48x 4y ago
      > The videos that don’t make money are the unpopular ones. I disagree with that. A selection of channels that I watch regularly enough: The Spiffing Brit doesn’t do sponsorships, and his videos are quite popular (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRHXUZ0BxbkU2MYZgsuFgkQ/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRHXUZ0BxbkU2MYZgsuFgkQ/vid...). This Old Tony (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9rlWu9KWe8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9rlWu9KWe8) is not quite as popular, if you count popularity by video views, but still very popular and no sponsorships. What about Ben Eater? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_koa00MBLg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_koa00MBLg) He is exactly the kind of enthusiast who would make amazing videos even if all advertising disappeared. Ross Whatshisname of Accursed Farms (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ6KZTTnkE-s2XFJJmoTAkw/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ6KZTTnkE-s2XFJJmoTAkw/vid...) does an extremely in–depth review of a video game about once a month, and doesn’t do sponsorships. He gets 200k–500k views on every review, which is very popular by any measure. Posy (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmEmX_jw_pRp5UbAdzkZq-g/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmEmX_jw_pRp5UbAdzkZq-g/vid...) is another enthusiast who makes videos for the sheer delight of it and whose videos are quite popular. If you haven’t watched his videos about LCD displays then you haven’t lived. I agree that truly unpopular videos with a dozen views will never make money, by advertising or otherwise. But the converse is not true; as I have demonstrated, there are plenty of popular videos that don’t bother to try to make money by sponsorships. You know every single one of those is turning down a VPN company every week of the year though.
wildrhythms 4y ago
Years ago I got my not-so-tech-savvy parents using an ad blocker on their laptop, and recently when I upgraded them to a new device they briefly experienced the internet without an ad blocker and thought something was wrong with their brand new computer. Once you experience the digital landscape with ads blocked, you quickly realize the mindblowing amount of advertising people are subjected to thru traditional media. I always wonder how much energy we're collectively wasting by sending people ads that they don't want to see, or will be blocked and never seen at all. What a waste
freediver 4y ago
Most of internet users are not tech savvy. And they overwhelmingly end up paying the "ad tax" imposed on the web.

by db48x 4y ago

Nas808 4y ago

That works well on a desktop browser, but the YouTube ads are still a problem on iOS and other platforms like smart TVS, Roku or Chromecast/Google TV.

Snuupy 4y ago
smarttubenext for Google TV
db48x 4y ago
I don’t have much sympathy. When you bought those you gave up your ability to run your own software on them. That’s really why they sell them.
impulser_ 4y ago
You could just buy YouTube premium. Cancel Spotify, buy YouTube premium. Get both ad free videos and music on the same platform.
- UpstandingUser 4y ago
  Or I could rip my legally purchased* CDs and give the finger to the leeches and rent seekers that fuck us almost as hard as they do the artists. Yes I support corporate genocide. * lol
- colinmhayes 4y ago
  youtube premium is not a spotify replacement. Youtube is in no way built to be a music playback app.
  - themelodyfarm 4y ago
    “music playback app”? YouTube is at least as good as the vinyl record player. It is also the sole location for countless live audio/video recordings of musical performance. It works fine as a “music playback app” and is, to emphasize, an _awesome_ and convenient resource of live music performance.
  - Crash0v3rid3 4y ago
    That's why every YouTube premium subscription includes YouTube music which is a decent Spotify replacement.
vgeek 4y ago
Pihole with ad blocking or an OpenWRT (or really any router) router with ad blocking DNS is an alternative.
- Nas808 4y ago
  The YouTube ads defeat DNS sinkholes because the ads are served from the same domain(s) as the content.
  - vgeek 4y ago
    Can they evade uBo, too? I had a stretch where I was getting them in FF with uBo & Privacy badger, even after updating all rules, but then they started being blocked again on their own.
- colinmhayes 4y ago
  iOS can do DNS adblocking natively. https://adguard.com/en/blog/encrypted-dns-ios-14.html https://adguard.com/en/blog/encrypted-dns-ios-14.html Doesn't work for youtube because they're serving the ads first party.
christophilus 4y ago
> YouTube ads are still a problem on iOS Not for me. (Typed from iOS + Brave.)
AdamJacobMuller 4y ago
https://smarttubenext.com/ https://smarttubenext.com/ on Android TV (I use an nvidia shield) works great. In-video youtube sponsors were some of the last advertising I was exposed to. Glad to be rid of them.
timbit42 4y ago
On Android you can use Firefox with Ublock Origin. I wish SponsorBlock was available though. The NewPipe Android app is another option and there is a fork that includes SponsorBlock: https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe/releases https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe/releases

silvertaza 4y ago

It's probably apt to ask yourself what sort of revenue model you prefer to support for the value provided. YouTube is a rare case where they offer multiple options.

db48x 4y ago
Meh. Most videos on the web are crap. Having advertising makes some kinds of crap worse. And even if all advertising revenue went away, enthusiasts will always post videos for fun. In fact most videos don’t earn any significant advertising revenue. Personally advertising is a high cost to myself that I am not willing to pay. I even avoid restaurants that have televisions, or that play a radio station instead of buying music that has no advertising in it. (I also frequent a couple of places that are willing to leave the music off for me, at least early in the day before the lunch rush, and one that doesn’t play music at all. That’s a different story though.)
- space_fountain 4y ago
  The videos that don’t make money are the unpopular ones. Are they the ones you watch? Have you listened to the content creators you do consume and what they have to say about doing it for the joy of it all
  - db48x 4y ago
    > The videos that don’t make money are the unpopular ones. I disagree with that. A selection of channels that I watch regularly enough: The Spiffing Brit doesn’t do sponsorships, and his videos are quite popular (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRHXUZ0BxbkU2MYZgsuFgkQ/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRHXUZ0BxbkU2MYZgsuFgkQ/vid...). This Old Tony (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9rlWu9KWe8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9rlWu9KWe8) is not quite as popular, if you count popularity by video views, but still very popular and no sponsorships. What about Ben Eater? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_koa00MBLg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_koa00MBLg) He is exactly the kind of enthusiast who would make amazing videos even if all advertising disappeared. Ross Whatshisname of Accursed Farms (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ6KZTTnkE-s2XFJJmoTAkw/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ6KZTTnkE-s2XFJJmoTAkw/vid...) does an extremely in–depth review of a video game about once a month, and doesn’t do sponsorships. He gets 200k–500k views on every review, which is very popular by any measure. Posy (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmEmX_jw_pRp5UbAdzkZq-g/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmEmX_jw_pRp5UbAdzkZq-g/vid...) is another enthusiast who makes videos for the sheer delight of it and whose videos are quite popular. If you haven’t watched his videos about LCD displays then you haven’t lived. I agree that truly unpopular videos with a dozen views will never make money, by advertising or otherwise. But the converse is not true; as I have demonstrated, there are plenty of popular videos that don’t bother to try to make money by sponsorships. You know every single one of those is turning down a VPN company every week of the year though.

wildrhythms 4y ago

Years ago I got my not-so-tech-savvy parents using an ad blocker on their laptop, and recently when I upgraded them to a new device they briefly experienced the internet without an ad blocker and thought something was wrong with their brand new computer. Once you experience the digital landscape with ads blocked, you quickly realize the mindblowing amount of advertising people are subjected to thru traditional media. I always wonder how much energy we're collectively wasting by sending people ads that they don't want to see, or will be blocked and never seen at all. What a waste

freediver 4y ago

Most of internet users are not tech savvy. And they overwhelmingly end up paying the "ad tax" imposed on the web.