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Which functionality from Cloudflare do you need? They have quite of few offerings.

by alberth 4y ago

ivanstegic 4y ago
Honestly, it's the DNS and whole HTML/File assets caching and acceleration that it provides.
- yamtaddle 4y ago
  If you're willing to have two logins rather than one, your options are practically limitless. Get DNS from one provider, CDN from another, problem solved. There's even a decent chance your registrar offers DNS, which means you're not adding an extra login (unless CloudFlare's also your registrar) If you must have DNS bundled with the other stuff, your options are... way less limitless.
  - ivanstegic 4y ago
    I am OK with separating it out. It's much easier to manage for a larger number of clients though. That's why!
    - yamtaddle 4y ago
      Some providers of DNS and/or CDN have configuration Web APIs that can make managing multiple service providers less painful, especially if you're already scripting a lot of your other configuration (virtual machine deployments & config, or what have you)
latchkey 4y ago
Or, what's wrong with CF?
- MacsHeadroom 4y ago
  Centralization, censorship, not supporting competition, etc.
  - rsstack 4y ago
    - How can a business, specifically a CDN, not be centralized? - Your business, your values, you're of course free to ignore Cloudflare if you disagree with their policies. - What kind of support are they supposed to give their competitors that they aren't?
    - yucky 4y ago
      >- How can a business, specifically a CDN, not be centralized? IPFS? Internet Computer? I know HN hates crypto, but isn't this one of it's main use cases?
      - rsstack 4y ago
        Won't share my opinion on crypto, but concretely: I believe IPFS only serves static contents (which is what CDNs did a couple of decades ago) and doesn't serve web traffic directly due to latency and throughput limitations without a "centralized" CDN, such a Cloudflare https://developers.cloudflare.com/web3/ipfs-gateway/reference/updating-for-ipfs/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/web3/ipfs-gateway/referenc....
        MacsHeadroom 4y ago
        IPFS does serve traffic directly, and faster than through Cloudflare; if you run a local node. It accomplishes this by pre-caching content related to the content you access. So it is a bit network heavy. But I've been using it for about a year and the speed just can't be beat. https://docs.ipfs.tech/install/ipfs-desktop/ https://docs.ipfs.tech/install/ipfs-desktop/
        rsstack 4y ago
        Who needs to run the local node? The website owner or the website visitor? (I never used IPFS.)
ivanstegic 4y ago
oh, also: separate accounts with domains per account so my clients can access their own set of domains. I need some sort of separation of permissions.

Which functionality from Cloudflare do you need? They have quite of few offerings.

ivanstegic 4y ago

Honestly, it's the DNS and whole HTML/File assets caching and acceleration that it provides.

yamtaddle 4y ago
If you're willing to have two logins rather than one, your options are practically limitless. Get DNS from one provider, CDN from another, problem solved. There's even a decent chance your registrar offers DNS, which means you're not adding an extra login (unless CloudFlare's also your registrar) If you must have DNS bundled with the other stuff, your options are... way less limitless.
- ivanstegic 4y ago
  I am OK with separating it out. It's much easier to manage for a larger number of clients though. That's why!
  - yamtaddle 4y ago
    Some providers of DNS and/or CDN have configuration Web APIs that can make managing multiple service providers less painful, especially if you're already scripting a lot of your other configuration (virtual machine deployments & config, or what have you)

latchkey 4y ago

Or, what's wrong with CF?

MacsHeadroom 4y ago
Centralization, censorship, not supporting competition, etc.
- rsstack 4y ago
  - How can a business, specifically a CDN, not be centralized? - Your business, your values, you're of course free to ignore Cloudflare if you disagree with their policies. - What kind of support are they supposed to give their competitors that they aren't?
  - yucky 4y ago
    >- How can a business, specifically a CDN, not be centralized? IPFS? Internet Computer? I know HN hates crypto, but isn't this one of it's main use cases?
    - rsstack 4y ago
      Won't share my opinion on crypto, but concretely: I believe IPFS only serves static contents (which is what CDNs did a couple of decades ago) and doesn't serve web traffic directly due to latency and throughput limitations without a "centralized" CDN, such a Cloudflare https://developers.cloudflare.com/web3/ipfs-gateway/reference/updating-for-ipfs/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/web3/ipfs-gateway/referenc....
      - MacsHeadroom 4y ago
        IPFS does serve traffic directly, and faster than through Cloudflare; if you run a local node. It accomplishes this by pre-caching content related to the content you access. So it is a bit network heavy. But I've been using it for about a year and the speed just can't be beat. https://docs.ipfs.tech/install/ipfs-desktop/ https://docs.ipfs.tech/install/ipfs-desktop/
        rsstack 4y ago
        Who needs to run the local node? The website owner or the website visitor? (I never used IPFS.)

ivanstegic 4y ago

oh, also: separate accounts with domains per account so my clients can access their own set of domains. I need some sort of separation of permissions.