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It have a lot of trouble understanding how this sentiment can exist. Especially since the rise of GPT-3 and now these image models, we've seen the pop-culture

It have a lot of trouble understanding how this sentiment can exist. Especially since the rise of GPT-3 and now these image models, we've seen the pop-culture face of AI become even narrower. The promise of generalization that could lead to intelligent behavior has given way to people sharing amusing pictures or phrases that these models have generated, because that's what they do. It's cool, but it's basically become orthogonal to any AGI, or even AI with applications. It's now just a neat cultural phenomenon from which laypeople somehow extrapolate the kind if stuff the parent is saying. I'm not saying AI (neural networks) isn't making research progress, it's just that it has almost nothing to do with any of what laypeople extrapolate from it

rebelos 4y ago
I'm sorry, but there is no gentler way to phrase this: you are calamitously blind to what's happening on the ground. https://twitter.com/AdeptAILabs/status/1570144499187453952 https://twitter.com/AdeptAILabs/status/1570144499187453952 https://twitter.com/runwayml/status/1568220303808991232 https://twitter.com/runwayml/status/1568220303808991232 https://scale.com/blog/text-universal-interface https://scale.com/blog/text-universal-interface
- civilized 4y ago
  Watch out for histrionic phrases like "calamitously blind". They indicate you're getting too emotional, losing perspective, verging into extreme, black-and-white thinking. Text to video and converting some selected requests into actions is all nice, but it hardly contradicts the GP's observation: it's nowhere near AGI.
  - rebelos 4y ago
    A pattern I'm seeing in the later replies here is that few of them are responding to the substance of my comments. Perhaps dang will clean this up. EDIT Since you ninja edited this in: > Text to video and converting some selected requests into actions is all nice, but it hardly contradicts the GP's observation: it's nowhere near AGI. If you review the root comment I made, you'll understand that I was never arguing with the GP about AGI in the first place.
    - civilized 4y ago
      Then it's puzzling to accuse someone of calamitous blindness when you are not even engaging with the point of the post you're replying to.
      - rebelos 4y ago
        > Then it's puzzling to accuse someone of calamitous blindness when you are not even engaging with the point of the post you're replying to. At this point, I'm wondering if you're just provoking me deliberately. The comment I replied to said the following: > The promise of generalization that could lead to intelligent behavior has given way to people sharing amusing pictures or phrases that these models have generated, because that's what they do. It's cool, but it's basically become orthogonal to any AGI, or even AI with applications. And then I posted evidence of concrete applications that are in progress at some of the most well-resourced companies in Silicon Valley. Absolutely groundbreaking stuff that more than prove sophisticated applications of contemporary AI are well on their way to being realized. A lot of "histrionic phrases" to describe your reading comprehension ability are occurring to me right now, but I'll refrain from using them.
        civilized 4y ago
        I am sure we can all agree that the new generation of AI models has some applications. How much remains to be seen. The ones you've noted could be nice. We'll see. A Twitter thread demo is not quite a revolution yet IMHO. Even in the 60s some people thought ELIZA was a real person. I've said all I have to say. Have a nice day.
        trention 4y ago
        >evidence of concrete applications that are in progress at some of the most well-resourced companies in Silicon Valley Neither of the 2 companies you posted marketing materials about is among "some of the most well-resourced companies in Silicon Valley".
        rebelos 4y ago

rebelos 4y ago

I'm sorry, but there is no gentler way to phrase this: you are calamitously blind to what's happening on the ground. https://twitter.com/AdeptAILabs/status/1570144499187453952 https://twitter.com/AdeptAILabs/status/1570144499187453952 https://twitter.com/runwayml/status/1568220303808991232 https://twitter.com/runwayml/status/1568220303808991232 https://scale.com/blog/text-universal-interface https://scale.com/blog/text-universal-interface

civilized 4y ago
Watch out for histrionic phrases like "calamitously blind". They indicate you're getting too emotional, losing perspective, verging into extreme, black-and-white thinking. Text to video and converting some selected requests into actions is all nice, but it hardly contradicts the GP's observation: it's nowhere near AGI.
- rebelos 4y ago
  A pattern I'm seeing in the later replies here is that few of them are responding to the substance of my comments. Perhaps dang will clean this up. EDIT Since you ninja edited this in: > Text to video and converting some selected requests into actions is all nice, but it hardly contradicts the GP's observation: it's nowhere near AGI. If you review the root comment I made, you'll understand that I was never arguing with the GP about AGI in the first place.
  - civilized 4y ago
    Then it's puzzling to accuse someone of calamitous blindness when you are not even engaging with the point of the post you're replying to.
    - rebelos 4y ago
      > Then it's puzzling to accuse someone of calamitous blindness when you are not even engaging with the point of the post you're replying to. At this point, I'm wondering if you're just provoking me deliberately. The comment I replied to said the following: > The promise of generalization that could lead to intelligent behavior has given way to people sharing amusing pictures or phrases that these models have generated, because that's what they do. It's cool, but it's basically become orthogonal to any AGI, or even AI with applications. And then I posted evidence of concrete applications that are in progress at some of the most well-resourced companies in Silicon Valley. Absolutely groundbreaking stuff that more than prove sophisticated applications of contemporary AI are well on their way to being realized. A lot of "histrionic phrases" to describe your reading comprehension ability are occurring to me right now, but I'll refrain from using them.
      - civilized 4y ago
        I am sure we can all agree that the new generation of AI models has some applications. How much remains to be seen. The ones you've noted could be nice. We'll see. A Twitter thread demo is not quite a revolution yet IMHO. Even in the 60s some people thought ELIZA was a real person. I've said all I have to say. Have a nice day.
      - trention 4y ago
        >evidence of concrete applications that are in progress at some of the most well-resourced companies in Silicon Valley Neither of the 2 companies you posted marketing materials about is among "some of the most well-resourced companies in Silicon Valley".
        rebelos 4y ago