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I'm not sure that anyone has a definative answer to that question right now. The new tools are interesting because they do things in a different way, but there

I'm not sure that anyone has a definative answer to that question right now. The new tools are interesting because they do things in a different way, but there is a lot they don't do, so we're supporting both. It's possible that one day Firebug will be totally superceeded. It's possible that both tools will have separate audiences for some time. It's possible that the new native tools will be a total flop (although I have a vested interest in making sure that doesn't happen!)

AndrewDucker 15y ago
Bringing the new functionality into Firefox, where it can be more exhaustively slimmed down and the primary team is responsible for it makes sense to me. Heck, if the basic functionality is there then Firebug can be written to take advantage of those APIs, which would be a win all round.
- mweibel 15y ago
  Regarding #2: Yeah, that would be really great. Could also lead to less memory consumed
  - JanOdvarko 15y ago
    I am hard working to fix all Firebug memory leaks (and did fix some of them recently). What I really need is a simple scenario showing that Firebug leaks. That helps me a lot! Any input is appreciated, please post here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/firebug https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/firebug Honza
    - mkopinsky 15y ago
      How am I to tell whether leaks are from Firefox or Firebug? What I know is that after a full day developing Firefox will use 800MB of RAM, and the only way to get rid of that is to close the entire process. I use Firebug heavily and I know that _something_ is leaking somewhere.
    - mweibel 15y ago
      That's nice to hear! I'll take a look on how to help. As mkopinsky points out it's sometimes hard to tell what really leaks memory. I can tell the same thing as he, but I think it has been improved a lot lately. Sometimes I had after some time working around 1.5GB Memory usage, but this is better now.
- JanOdvarko 15y ago
  Precisely, that's the intention. Honza

AndrewDucker 15y ago

Bringing the new functionality into Firefox, where it can be more exhaustively slimmed down and the primary team is responsible for it makes sense to me. Heck, if the basic functionality is there then Firebug can be written to take advantage of those APIs, which would be a win all round.

mweibel 15y ago
Regarding #2: Yeah, that would be really great. Could also lead to less memory consumed
- JanOdvarko 15y ago
  I am hard working to fix all Firebug memory leaks (and did fix some of them recently). What I really need is a simple scenario showing that Firebug leaks. That helps me a lot! Any input is appreciated, please post here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/firebug https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/firebug Honza
  - mkopinsky 15y ago
    How am I to tell whether leaks are from Firefox or Firebug? What I know is that after a full day developing Firefox will use 800MB of RAM, and the only way to get rid of that is to close the entire process. I use Firebug heavily and I know that _something_ is leaking somewhere.
  - mweibel 15y ago
    That's nice to hear! I'll take a look on how to help. As mkopinsky points out it's sometimes hard to tell what really leaks memory. I can tell the same thing as he, but I think it has been improved a lot lately. Sometimes I had after some time working around 1.5GB Memory usage, but this is better now.
JanOdvarko 15y ago
Precisely, that's the intention. Honza