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This is the next iteration to make Cloud Spanner more accessible for developers to start using a scalable relational database that values consistency AND availa

This is the next iteration to make Cloud Spanner more accessible for developers to start using a scalable relational database that values consistency AND availability. If anyone wants to try out Spanner without cost, this is a great option. There's also a pretty cool starting experience in terms of in-console tutorial to set up a sample app on Spanner. I'd love to get feedback on getting started with Spanner. Disclaimer: as my username suggest, I work at Google, quite closely with the Cloud Spanner team.

pphysch 4y ago
Does the postgresql interface support jsonb?
- googledtest 4y ago
  Not currently, but it's definitely something the team has received feedback for.
  - ivanvanderbyl 4y ago
    Does it support Postgis or other extensions?
    - GabeWeiss_ 4y ago
      No extensions, no. Think of the interface more like a way for accessing Spanner features using Postgres, rather than using Postgres with a Spanner backend.
choppaface 4y ago
Can you please as your PR and PMs to change the wording here so it’s so so misleading that the offering is NOT a free tier but rather a trial? In general Ive had pretty ridiculous trouble with GCloud reps pushing their practices and mindesets on me, across several large contracts and companies. Your team dearly needs to work on basic communication. As Sundar has said publicly, Google as a whole needs to earn back user trust. As a corporate GCloud user (not my choice), you have obliterated it time and time again, and these sorts of fake free announcements really don’t help your case.
- teraflop 4y ago
  As far as I can see, the wording on Google's pages is fine. It's just that someone else submitted it to HN under an editorialized title.
  - GabeWeiss_ 4y ago
    Correct, we (Google) didn't make the post, so unfortunately we don't have access to changing the title. Just have to hope folks read the comments.
    - choppaface 4y ago
      No but you wrote the article, and you have a lot of people who could email hn@ycombinator.com to get the advert corrected. Again, this is more about repeatedly poor customer service than accuracy of this specific article.
  - choppaface 4y ago
    To be clear, Google Cloud always had a free $300 trial. The Spanner news is confusing at best, but most likely clickbait. If you really want Spanner in your default $300 free trial, you can just ask ops to enable / increase quota for it. The OP is a promotion advert disguised as a major service change and written as a PM. That goes to the core of the untrustworthy behavior that I've observed from GCloud reps over multiple contracts.
    - GabeWeiss_ 4y ago
      Not sure what you mean here. The Spanner trial is a completely separate thing from the $300 starting credits. So if you use the Spanner free trial, you aren't spending any part of the $300 credits during that trial period. You can also start the free Spanner trial regardless if you've spent the $300 starting credits in the past.
collyw 4y ago
The majority of relational databases scale far more than their users need. But somehow Mongo got popular enough that I am stuck with it at work.

pphysch 4y ago

Does the postgresql interface support jsonb?

googledtest 4y ago
Not currently, but it's definitely something the team has received feedback for.
- ivanvanderbyl 4y ago
  Does it support Postgis or other extensions?
  - GabeWeiss_ 4y ago
    No extensions, no. Think of the interface more like a way for accessing Spanner features using Postgres, rather than using Postgres with a Spanner backend.

choppaface 4y ago

Can you please as your PR and PMs to change the wording here so it’s so so misleading that the offering is NOT a free tier but rather a trial? In general Ive had pretty ridiculous trouble with GCloud reps pushing their practices and mindesets on me, across several large contracts and companies. Your team dearly needs to work on basic communication. As Sundar has said publicly, Google as a whole needs to earn back user trust. As a corporate GCloud user (not my choice), you have obliterated it time and time again, and these sorts of fake free announcements really don’t help your case.

teraflop 4y ago
As far as I can see, the wording on Google's pages is fine. It's just that someone else submitted it to HN under an editorialized title.
- GabeWeiss_ 4y ago
  Correct, we (Google) didn't make the post, so unfortunately we don't have access to changing the title. Just have to hope folks read the comments.
  - choppaface 4y ago
    No but you wrote the article, and you have a lot of people who could email hn@ycombinator.com to get the advert corrected. Again, this is more about repeatedly poor customer service than accuracy of this specific article.
- choppaface 4y ago
  To be clear, Google Cloud always had a free $300 trial. The Spanner news is confusing at best, but most likely clickbait. If you really want Spanner in your default $300 free trial, you can just ask ops to enable / increase quota for it. The OP is a promotion advert disguised as a major service change and written as a PM. That goes to the core of the untrustworthy behavior that I've observed from GCloud reps over multiple contracts.
  - GabeWeiss_ 4y ago
    Not sure what you mean here. The Spanner trial is a completely separate thing from the $300 starting credits. So if you use the Spanner free trial, you aren't spending any part of the $300 credits during that trial period. You can also start the free Spanner trial regardless if you've spent the $300 starting credits in the past.

collyw 4y ago

The majority of relational databases scale far more than their users need. But somehow Mongo got popular enough that I am stuck with it at work.