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If you can get a city/county/state to adopt Condorcet, by all means have at it. IRV is much better than FPTP because FPTP encourages candidates to drop out of a
by wslack 4y ago
If you can get a city/county/state to adopt Condorcet, by all means have at it. IRV is much better than FPTP because FPTP encourages candidates to drop out of a race so that their supporters can unite around one ideologically aligned candidates - meaning we lose the "signal" from those other candidates.
IRV, on the other hand, does not encourage candidates to drop out, allowing the voters to express their views more clearly.
- gamegoblin 4y agoThe Alaska data shows that this is not the case. For instance, if Palin had dropped out, Begich would have won. Palin pulled enough votes from Begich in the first round that Begich was eliminated, even though he would have beaten Peltola in the final. Almost all Palin voters would have preferred Begich to Peltola, so they could have gotten a better result by lying about their preferences and strategically voting for Begich as their first choice. Expressing their views honestly resulted in a worse outcome than if they had expressed their views dishonestly. Among voting nerds this failure mode is referred to as "favorite betrayal" -- https://electowiki.org/wiki/Favorite_betrayal_criterion https://electowiki.org/wiki/Favorite_betrayal_criterion
- fdsjgfklsfd 4y ago> IRV, on the other hand, does not encourage candidates to drop out, allowing the voters to express their views more clearly. That's literally the opposite of what it does. Palin should have dropped out, or her voters should have dishonestly ranked her second, so that the win would have gone to a Republican instead of a Democrat. IRV did not prevent Palin from acting as a spoiler and did not make it safe for voters to honestly rank the candidates.