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Iran Using Surveillance Cameras to Identify Women Breaking Hijab Rule

49 points by giuliomagnifico 4y ago

T3RMINATED 4y ago
eimrine 4y ago
Sometimes I think that new directions in electronic design are giving us more un-friedoms than freedoms.
- CharlesW 4y ago
  "You liked oppression? You're going to love oppression at scale!"
  - anakaine 4y ago
    Oppression 2.0? No! We're now using oppression chain! Using open leger technology, banks, education, government and employers can all participate in oppression. Just wait for chastity tokens.
- klyrs 4y ago
  Much like guns, the technology can greatly empower the individual. But, governments can afford a lot more than individuals.
trasz 4y ago
matrix12 4y ago
This stands in such stark contrast to its view as a "freedom of religion" here in the USA.
- klyrs 4y ago
  Is the anti-abortion movement secular in nature?
  - aaron695 4y ago
  - hombre_fatal 4y ago
    It could be. People tend to be arguing whether it's morally right to take a life rather than whether the bible prohibits abortion. There's certainly religious and political circle overlap, though that be caused by echo chambers and social influence.
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    - klyrs 4y ago
      It could be, yeah, in an alternate universe where the Evangelical and more recently, Catholic churches weren't leading the movement; where the politicians advancing anti-abortion laws weren't literally arguing that it's god's will; where the same religious activists and politicians weren't passing laws to harm LGBT youth arguing that it's god's will; where censorship and library closures weren't being enacted and justified on the basis of god's will; where there wasn't a significant proportion of politicians and even justices describing the US as a Christian state. In that universe, one could argue that the movement against women's rights wasn't based on religion. But in this universe, you must be a liar or a fool to believe such a thing.
      - hombre_fatal 4y ago
        All I'm saying is that religion isn't the only basis for being pro-abortion. The debate must still happen in a 100% secular society. For example, why are ~50% of US men anti-abortion and only ~33% of women against abortion? Is it because men are more religious? Are 33% of women against abortion only because they are religious while 67% of women are athiests? It's naive to think that a secular society is a unanimous one. To give you an example, let's just consider people who support abortion: do they all agree that you should be able to abort at any point up until birth?
g42gregory 4y ago
It seems similar to the censoring of free speech on the Internet and social media. Sure, the specific manifestation is different, but the basic idea of using AI to control people’s behavior seems the same to me.
simonblack 4y ago
Deep-State Anti-Iran Government website: "Radio Free Europe was created and grew in its early years through the efforts of the National Committee for a Free Europe (NCFE), an anti-communist CIA front organization that was formed by Allen Dulles in New York City in 1949." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Europe/Radio_Liberty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Europe/Radio_Libert... Take anything RFE/RL says with a HUGE pinch of salt.
LinuxBender 4y ago
I envision regional/county governments implementing something similar to this to nickle-and-dime people for smaller infractions automatically. Combine this with governments moving their currency management to crypto [1] and people could get auto-dinged for jaywalking. [2] [1] - https://www.federalreserve.gov/central-bank-digital-currency.htm https://www.federalreserve.gov/central-bank-digital-currency... [2] - https://wikiless.org/wiki/Jaywalking?lang=en https://wikiless.org/wiki/Jaywalking?lang=en

T3RMINATED 4y ago

eimrine 4y ago

Sometimes I think that new directions in electronic design are giving us more un-friedoms than freedoms.

CharlesW 4y ago
"You liked oppression? You're going to love oppression at scale!"
- anakaine 4y ago
  Oppression 2.0? No! We're now using oppression chain! Using open leger technology, banks, education, government and employers can all participate in oppression. Just wait for chastity tokens.
klyrs 4y ago
Much like guns, the technology can greatly empower the individual. But, governments can afford a lot more than individuals.

trasz 4y ago

matrix12 4y ago

This stands in such stark contrast to its view as a "freedom of religion" here in the USA.

klyrs 4y ago
Is the anti-abortion movement secular in nature?
- aaron695 4y ago
- hombre_fatal 4y ago
  It could be. People tend to be arguing whether it's morally right to take a life rather than whether the bible prohibits abortion. There's certainly religious and political circle overlap, though that be caused by echo chambers and social influence.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - klyrs 4y ago
    It could be, yeah, in an alternate universe where the Evangelical and more recently, Catholic churches weren't leading the movement; where the politicians advancing anti-abortion laws weren't literally arguing that it's god's will; where the same religious activists and politicians weren't passing laws to harm LGBT youth arguing that it's god's will; where censorship and library closures weren't being enacted and justified on the basis of god's will; where there wasn't a significant proportion of politicians and even justices describing the US as a Christian state. In that universe, one could argue that the movement against women's rights wasn't based on religion. But in this universe, you must be a liar or a fool to believe such a thing.
    - hombre_fatal 4y ago
      All I'm saying is that religion isn't the only basis for being pro-abortion. The debate must still happen in a 100% secular society. For example, why are ~50% of US men anti-abortion and only ~33% of women against abortion? Is it because men are more religious? Are 33% of women against abortion only because they are religious while 67% of women are athiests? It's naive to think that a secular society is a unanimous one. To give you an example, let's just consider people who support abortion: do they all agree that you should be able to abort at any point up until birth?

g42gregory 4y ago

It seems similar to the censoring of free speech on the Internet and social media. Sure, the specific manifestation is different, but the basic idea of using AI to control people’s behavior seems the same to me.

simonblack 4y ago

Deep-State Anti-Iran Government website: "Radio Free Europe was created and grew in its early years through the efforts of the National Committee for a Free Europe (NCFE), an anti-communist CIA front organization that was formed by Allen Dulles in New York City in 1949." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Europe/Radio_Liberty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Europe/Radio_Libert... Take anything RFE/RL says with a HUGE pinch of salt.

LinuxBender 4y ago

I envision regional/county governments implementing something similar to this to nickle-and-dime people for smaller infractions automatically. Combine this with governments moving their currency management to crypto [1] and people could get auto-dinged for jaywalking. [2] [1] - https://www.federalreserve.gov/central-bank-digital-currency.htm https://www.federalreserve.gov/central-bank-digital-currency... [2] - https://wikiless.org/wiki/Jaywalking?lang=en https://wikiless.org/wiki/Jaywalking?lang=en