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Unless road conditions are completely 100% ideal (no snow, no rain, road markers are clearly visible and not covered up by dirt/dust/rubbermarks), you're never,
by scohesc 4y ago
Unless road conditions are completely 100% ideal (no snow, no rain, road markers are clearly visible and not covered up by dirt/dust/rubbermarks), you're never, _ever_ going to have fully autonomous self-driving. Too many variables and factors to account for.
Elon Musk has been gloating about fully self driving vehicles for years, but has never really delivered, despite people paying tens of thousands for access to the BETA feature.
It's probably much better off to have RFID beacons planted in roadways (either along lane markers, or in the center of lanes) which can be easily read by vehicles with the appropriate antenna. Sort of like a virtual railroad track. (Then again, what's stopping someone from hijacking the signal and telling all the cars going through downtown areas that they're all going to turn left/right suddenly)
It's tough. I don't like the cultural idea of letting computers control aspects of our lives. We're already starting to come to terms with it in things like AI-controlled content administration with Google (Youtube/Gmail), Facebook (New Feed "personalization", etc). I think inviting it into our physical world is going to bring up a lot of questions people didn't think they'd ever have to answer in their lives.
- x86x87 4y agoNever is a long time. I'm going to say that AGI will be able to drive a car. AGI is very far into the future but I would not say it's impossible.
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- amanaplanacanal 4y agoI have suspected for a while that it might require AGI. I'm an old guy and don't expect to see it in my lifetime.
- mensetmanusman 4y agoSelf-driving also won’t work in the Sierra desert, but no one expects it to. I think matching expectations with the varying definitions will be important moving forward.
- mint2 4y agoWhere is this “Sierra desert” do you mean Sahara?
- mensetmanusman 4y agoOh dictation keyboard
- gruturo 4y agoYesterday I had to drive at night in awfully intense rain and I was very close to stopping because it was at the very limit of acceptable safety for me. My night vision is not so good, cars in the opposite direction were blinding me with their headlights, and road markers become invisible in the rain in Germany (not in US or Italy, I don't know why this is so bad in Germany - different paint?). Self driving doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to be better than me (including knowing when to stop!). Tesla isn't there, but I'm pretty sure they can get there in my lifetime. May be way way too late for the angry customers, the courts, the investors and the stock market, but it's not unreachable.
- jeffreygoesto 4y agoThe paint of the lines contains little glass beads that reflect your headlights back to you [0]. If the water film is higher than the part of the beads sticking out of the paint, the light bounces off further away from you. Maybe it also depends on the roughness of the asphalt of the surface gets uniformly wet or not? Bott's dots are better in that aspect but they stick out considerably... [0] https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1yRIhHpXXXXXUXFXXq6xXFXXXr/220937744/HTB1yRIhHpXXXXXUXFXXq6xXFXXXr.jpg https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1yRIhHpXXXXXUXFXXq6xXFXXXr/220...
- gruturo 4y agoMaybe Germany isn't using them? It doesn't take a heavy rain to make them practically disappear - which I haven't experienced elsewhere. But that was already a good starting point for some searches, thank you!
- mint2 4y agoIf the lanes positioning is determined by embedded stuff, roadwork that diverts/shifts lanes becomes more expensive and more time consuming