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I don't think Figma is going to die. It'll be bundled as part of the Creative Suite. It'll add buttons to quickly export your designs to PhotoShop or Illustrato

by apozem 4y ago

I don't think Figma is going to die. It'll be bundled as part of the Creative Suite. It'll add buttons to quickly export your designs to PhotoShop or Illustrator or whatever. It'll probably get slower and clunkier. Not death, just... Adobe.

afavour 4y ago
So a slow death, then. I'm old enough to remember when Adobe acquired Macromedia. They slapped some new icons on Dreamweaver, Fireworks, Flash etc. then completely neglected them until people abandoned them. I pray Figma fares better.
- apocalyptic0n3 4y ago
  In this case, I think it will. Adobe has been trying to build their own version of Figma for like 5 years. If anything, this probably means the end of XD and maybe their web versions of Photoshop. The Macromedia acquisition was a little different – Fireworks was an inferior Photoshop competitor, Freehand an inferior Illustrator competitor, Dreamweaver was outside of their core business, Flash actually got decent support until the world itself moved on from it (and Adobe mistakenly believed it could survive as closed source), and the rest of the portfolio didn't have much value. In Figma's case, it's actually a superior competitor to XD and even Photoshop in a lot of use cases, and it's figured out the web-based design environment that Adobe has tried repeatedly to do with mixed results. I'd be surprised if they decided to shutter Figma. Now... ruin it by adding a bunch of crap nobody wants like Adobe does with every other product? Pretty likely. But I don't think they'll do what they did to Macromedia. I could be wrong, though.
  - geerlingguy 4y ago
    Fireworks was completely focused on web graphics, and Photoshop couldn't hold a candle to it for that use case. I used photoshop for touching up photos and generating things, then fireworks for cutting up and exporting the graphics, in a time before browsers could take practically anything and CMSes would autogenerate versions for different uses. Also, Dreamweaver was heads and shoulders above GoLive or whatever that app was Adobe was pedaling for web page design at the time. It lost its edge once Adobe adopted it as their main web page editing app.
munbun 4y ago
If it gets slower or clunkier, it will die. High chance Adobe increases pricing & wastes a year of engineering resources on integrating Figma with their Adobe Cloud over building useful features.
- apozem 4y ago
  Figma will likely slow down. In the short term, they've got to lay off redundant folks, join the new healthcare plan and learn how to work with lots of new stakeholders. All that comes before the actual engineering work of integrating into Adobe Cloud. That's a lot of organizational chaos, not great for shipping. In the long term, I'd guess there will be a cultural shift away from speed. Startups are fast because if they're not, they die. Large corporations don't do that. Large corporations have enterprise customers and people who worry about liability and lots of politics. It's just a different mindset and set of pressures.
elliekelly 4y ago
Adobe is a fate worse than death. For software, at least.
whywhywhywhy 4y ago
> It'll be bundled as part of the Creative Suite I can promise you it wont. None of their recent acquisitions have. Allegorithmic Substance is extra money on top of CC now they've bought it. Figma will probably remain an extra subscription too.

by apozem 4y ago

afavour 4y ago

So a slow death, then. I'm old enough to remember when Adobe acquired Macromedia. They slapped some new icons on Dreamweaver, Fireworks, Flash etc. then completely neglected them until people abandoned them. I pray Figma fares better.

apocalyptic0n3 4y ago
In this case, I think it will. Adobe has been trying to build their own version of Figma for like 5 years. If anything, this probably means the end of XD and maybe their web versions of Photoshop. The Macromedia acquisition was a little different – Fireworks was an inferior Photoshop competitor, Freehand an inferior Illustrator competitor, Dreamweaver was outside of their core business, Flash actually got decent support until the world itself moved on from it (and Adobe mistakenly believed it could survive as closed source), and the rest of the portfolio didn't have much value. In Figma's case, it's actually a superior competitor to XD and even Photoshop in a lot of use cases, and it's figured out the web-based design environment that Adobe has tried repeatedly to do with mixed results. I'd be surprised if they decided to shutter Figma. Now... ruin it by adding a bunch of crap nobody wants like Adobe does with every other product? Pretty likely. But I don't think they'll do what they did to Macromedia. I could be wrong, though.
- geerlingguy 4y ago
  Fireworks was completely focused on web graphics, and Photoshop couldn't hold a candle to it for that use case. I used photoshop for touching up photos and generating things, then fireworks for cutting up and exporting the graphics, in a time before browsers could take practically anything and CMSes would autogenerate versions for different uses. Also, Dreamweaver was heads and shoulders above GoLive or whatever that app was Adobe was pedaling for web page design at the time. It lost its edge once Adobe adopted it as their main web page editing app.

munbun 4y ago

If it gets slower or clunkier, it will die. High chance Adobe increases pricing & wastes a year of engineering resources on integrating Figma with their Adobe Cloud over building useful features.

apozem 4y ago
Figma will likely slow down. In the short term, they've got to lay off redundant folks, join the new healthcare plan and learn how to work with lots of new stakeholders. All that comes before the actual engineering work of integrating into Adobe Cloud. That's a lot of organizational chaos, not great for shipping. In the long term, I'd guess there will be a cultural shift away from speed. Startups are fast because if they're not, they die. Large corporations don't do that. Large corporations have enterprise customers and people who worry about liability and lots of politics. It's just a different mindset and set of pressures.

elliekelly 4y ago

Adobe is a fate worse than death. For software, at least.

whywhywhywhy 4y ago

> It'll be bundled as part of the Creative Suite I can promise you it wont. None of their recent acquisitions have. Allegorithmic Substance is extra money on top of CC now they've bought it. Figma will probably remain an extra subscription too.