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Adobe can't eat penpot! https://github.com/penpot/penpot https://github.com/penpot/penpot https://penpot.app/ https://penpot.app/ https://help.penpot.app/tec

Adobe can't eat penpot! https://github.com/penpot/penpot https://github.com/penpot/penpot https://penpot.app/ https://penpot.app/ https://help.penpot.app/technical-guide/getting-started/#start-penpot https://help.penpot.app/technical-guide/getting-started/#sta...

bauripalash 4y ago
> Adobe can't eat penpot! That's the beauty of open source
- m12k 4y ago
  It's kind of amazing to me that we've reached the point where using open source is not a matter of idealism, but rather risk management to guard against the threat of product regressions due to consumer-hostile takeovers.
  - jcbrand 4y ago
    Open source has been used for risk management rather than idealism for probably about 20 years now.
    - marcodiego 4y ago
      Open source has been used for risk management rather than idealism for probably since the beginning.
  - archagon 4y ago
    "Always has been." (Also: the threat of product pivots or discontinuations.)
  - DC-3 4y ago
    Open source began because Xerox neglected to update their printer drivers. It's always been a blend of idealism and pragmatics.
    - marcodiego 4y ago
      You are mixing open source and Free Software.
      - badsectoracula 4y ago
        Open Source is just a MBA friendly term for Free Software.
        contravariant 4y ago
        Though can I just say that Free software is a much better term than Open Source (unless of course you only wish to say the source is publicly available).
        maxhille 4y ago
        Neither term guarantees (via legal measure) that the source is available. For that you also need copyleft.
  - acomjean 4y ago
    Or if you want to run your software on Linux. Its amazing how adobe isn't porting anything to Linux, despite linux being starting to be used heavily now in the creative industries with the rise of blender and tons of work being done on render farms. Blender and Krita are really high quality stuff, so hopefully problem solved. But those teams are really small compared to adobe.
  - badsectoracula 4y ago
    It always has been, where do you think that idealism came from? :-P
    - daniel-cussen 4y ago
      Same place but started out poor. Now there's money.
  - globular-toast 4y ago
    That has always been my selfish reason for using free/open source software. I agree with the principles of free software too, but even if I didn't I would be using it just so I can be in control of my own computing.
  - Rantenki 4y ago
    Not to be too inflammatory, but it's always amazing to me how people will ignore a threat as long as possible, then pretend it just appeared once they are forced to acknowledge it. Not a perfect XKCD match, but pretty close: https://xkcd.com/743 https://xkcd.com/743
jansan 4y ago
I am really curious: What features of Figma are not available in Penpot?
- capableweb 4y ago
  I just signed up to Penpot right now and gave it a look. Seems at least there are a few things that are not in Penpot but in Figma: - "Components" implemented differently so requires you to hit "Update master component" before changes in instances are visible - Auto layout doesn't seem to exists Probably more stuff, since Penpot is relatively new and FOSS, while Figma is old by startup standards with huge investments and a large team behind it.
- ringostarr 4y ago
  Access to local fonts is missing
returnInfinity 4y ago
Cloud features are critical in an enterprise setting The UX in my org share all the figma designs through figma cloud, I can quickly provide feedback and this is important! All designs are stored in the cloud, I can quickly go back and refer them when necessary. I am not sure if the open source solution provides all these features yet, but a new startup can provide these.
- capableweb 4y ago
  Penpot is also hosted on machines not run by you, as demonstrated by https://penpot.app/ https://penpot.app/ so not sure what you're arguing against.
julienfr112 4y ago
Penpot is written in clojure, front and back. I'm not competent enough to know if it's good thing or a bad thing.

bauripalash 4y ago

> Adobe can't eat penpot! That's the beauty of open source

m12k 4y ago
It's kind of amazing to me that we've reached the point where using open source is not a matter of idealism, but rather risk management to guard against the threat of product regressions due to consumer-hostile takeovers.
- jcbrand 4y ago
  Open source has been used for risk management rather than idealism for probably about 20 years now.
  - marcodiego 4y ago
    Open source has been used for risk management rather than idealism for probably since the beginning.
- archagon 4y ago
  "Always has been." (Also: the threat of product pivots or discontinuations.)
- DC-3 4y ago
  Open source began because Xerox neglected to update their printer drivers. It's always been a blend of idealism and pragmatics.
  - marcodiego 4y ago
    You are mixing open source and Free Software.
    - badsectoracula 4y ago
      Open Source is just a MBA friendly term for Free Software.
      - contravariant 4y ago
        Though can I just say that Free software is a much better term than Open Source (unless of course you only wish to say the source is publicly available).
        maxhille 4y ago
        Neither term guarantees (via legal measure) that the source is available. For that you also need copyleft.
- acomjean 4y ago
  Or if you want to run your software on Linux. Its amazing how adobe isn't porting anything to Linux, despite linux being starting to be used heavily now in the creative industries with the rise of blender and tons of work being done on render farms. Blender and Krita are really high quality stuff, so hopefully problem solved. But those teams are really small compared to adobe.
- badsectoracula 4y ago
  It always has been, where do you think that idealism came from? :-P
  - daniel-cussen 4y ago
    Same place but started out poor. Now there's money.
- globular-toast 4y ago
  That has always been my selfish reason for using free/open source software. I agree with the principles of free software too, but even if I didn't I would be using it just so I can be in control of my own computing.
- Rantenki 4y ago
  Not to be too inflammatory, but it's always amazing to me how people will ignore a threat as long as possible, then pretend it just appeared once they are forced to acknowledge it. Not a perfect XKCD match, but pretty close: https://xkcd.com/743 https://xkcd.com/743

jansan 4y ago

I am really curious: What features of Figma are not available in Penpot?

capableweb 4y ago
I just signed up to Penpot right now and gave it a look. Seems at least there are a few things that are not in Penpot but in Figma: - "Components" implemented differently so requires you to hit "Update master component" before changes in instances are visible - Auto layout doesn't seem to exists Probably more stuff, since Penpot is relatively new and FOSS, while Figma is old by startup standards with huge investments and a large team behind it.
ringostarr 4y ago
Access to local fonts is missing

returnInfinity 4y ago

Cloud features are critical in an enterprise setting The UX in my org share all the figma designs through figma cloud, I can quickly provide feedback and this is important! All designs are stored in the cloud, I can quickly go back and refer them when necessary. I am not sure if the open source solution provides all these features yet, but a new startup can provide these.

capableweb 4y ago
Penpot is also hosted on machines not run by you, as demonstrated by https://penpot.app/ https://penpot.app/ so not sure what you're arguing against.

julienfr112 4y ago

Penpot is written in clojure, front and back. I'm not competent enough to know if it's good thing or a bad thing.