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Oh, nice, my company is just integrating Okta. Is Cuba still being punished for daring to host Soviet missiles? I think the way we've treated them is really t
by ClumsyPilot 4y ago
Oh, nice, my company is just integrating Okta.
Is Cuba still being punished for daring to host Soviet missiles?
I think the way we've treated them is really terrible.
- ceejayoz 4y agoAt this point, Cuba is stuck being a chip in presidential politics to win Florida’s electoral votes.
- O__________O 4y agoMeaning if commerce with Cuba was not ban it would be a threat to Florida’s economy?
- hx833001 4y agoMeaning there are many Cuban refugees living in Florida who hate the Communist regime and will not support a President who does not continue the sanctions. No political party wants to lose Florida, therefor politicians have a good reason to continue US policy.
- Sebguer 4y agoFlorida's days of being a swing state will likely be over by the next presidential election. Desantis won by tight margins, but he seems to have done a great job attracting exactly the sort of people who'd vote for him to the state and has consistently worked to gerrymander and restrict voting rights for those who'd vote against him. Crist couldn't even beat Rick Scott for the Senate, and Scott was one of the least popular governors in the country at the time of the election. Edit: It was actually Bill Nelson who lost to Scott in 2018, my bad. Crist has been hiding out as a US Rep in Saint Pete since losing the governor's race to Scott.
- pixel16 4y agoBill nelson ran against Rick scott not charlie christ.
- Sebguer 4y agoOh, right, sorry - Crist lost to Scott as governor years before that. I'll edit my post.
- bavell 4y agoHow has Desantis restricted voting rights?
- Sebguer 4y agoRefused to implement the felon voting rights that voters approved in any manner that might actually by equitable. Proposed an extremely gerrymandered district map that was thrown out by a court, but then worked with the state congress to drag his feet on a replacement to ensure it gets used anyway.
- rsj_hn 4y agoSo that is your definition of "restricting" -- not expanding?
- sangnoir 4y agoThe voting rights of those individuals were restricted, as gp said. You're rephrasing it to make it sound like its something materially different, yet it's the same thing that goes against the spirit - and likely the letter - of the law.
- rsj_hn 4y agoNo, the statement was that Desantis restricted voting rights. Here is the literal quote: "Desantis won by tight margins [..] and has consistently worked to gerrymander and restrict voting rights for those who'd vote against him." When pressed for details on this bizarre claim, it was pointed out that voting rights for felons was not expanded and that the status quo remained under Desantis. Thus he only refused to expand voting rights. Now you are trying to rephrase the original claim to make it appear to be less false than it is, when all you need to do is scroll up to see the original claim.
- dt3ft 4y agoWait, are we the baddies (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU)?
- pessimizer 4y agoIt's vitally important that America defends Batista, the Czar, and the Shah.
- nix23 4y agoIt's called nation-building!!! The thing the CIA is best at, but still fail every single time ;)
- bantunes 4y agoC'mon, it's only been 60 years! /s
- lovellcw 4y agoCuba exports terrorism and misery across the region. The dictatorships in Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua fly under the radar these days, but are no less noxious to humanity than the regimes in Russia, Iran, NK, etc. You can argue whether or not sanctions are an effective way to promote regime change, or if they just hurt the regular citizens of rogue governments. I think they are often quite ineffective. But there's no defending the Cuban regime.
- Sebguer 4y agoCuba's biggest export is effectively doctors. But, sure, buy into decades old anti-communist propaganda!
- WHATDOESIT 4y agoThese doctors need to be taught a lot and don't even care about proper hygiene (or as one of them told me "we care about hygiene, it just means something totally different in Cuba"), and don't know the first thing about modern medical procedures using modern technologies and tooling. It's nothing like US or European medical schools - it's like they went to a medical-oriented high school at best. In Europe we just send them to the school again, they can't even skip years or subjects.
- ceejayoz 4y agoCuban life expectancy is almost exactly equal to American life expectancy; likely better over the last two years, actually (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2022/20220831.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2022/...). They don't seem to be doing that badly at keeping folks alive.
- WHATDOESIT 4y agoAmerican life expectancy is absurdly bad. I live in the places in Europe/EU where it's much higher, so to me it really is very bad (and yes we are making fun of US because of it too).
- refurb 4y agoNo, I think the sanctions came from expropriating US property without restitution.
- ceejayoz 4y agoCan the Hawaiians place similar sanctions on the US for doing the same thing? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_history_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_history_of_the_United... looks like it could get... expensive.
- mrguyorama 4y agoAbsolutely they can try. But who will come to their rescue when the federal government comes to impose it's opinion? Anyone can say anyone else is bad and "take action" against it. What matters is whether the rest of the world agrees with you or not.
- ClumsyPilot 4y agooh, so when are they getting back the illegally occupied Guantanamo Bay?
- smcl 4y agoNote: the "US property" in question here was basically all of the agricultural land in Cuba
- smcl 4y agoI think if we're going to root-cause this, what really got the ire of the Americans was good old fashioned land reform after the revolution. They hate land reform, happened in Guatemala too.
- maxk42 4y agoOkta just asked me to add a third authentication factor to my account. Now in addition to entering a password and authenticating via push notification I am also required to enter a code sent via SMS to the same phone that just answered a push notification. Sheer madness.