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There's a big difference between financial audits, especially at a massive organisation's scale, and process/compliance audits. The claims in that article from

by _djo_ 4y ago

There's a big difference between financial audits, especially at a massive organisation's scale, and process/compliance audits. The claims in that article from Senate aides are a bit misleading, as it's not that unexpected or unreasonable for a department as large and complex as the Pentagon to take years to reach 100% clean audits. After all, it took DHS a decade. It's because interventions don't take effect immediately, with process changes taking time to be planned, rolled out, and have an impact on reporting. As long as the trend keeps moving upward the country is better off than not having audits. The US DoD as a whole has always done a huge amount of compliance auditing both internally and of suppliers, as well as financial auditing at most project and unit levels, outside of the new Congress-mandated top-level auditing requirement.

jessaustin 4y ago
...it's not that unexpected or unreasonable for a department as large and complex as the Pentagon to take years to reach 100% clean audits. After all, it took DHS a decade. At that point, DHS had existed for just over a decade. Pentagon opened in 1943. Is there a chance that they'll file a complete audit while USA still exists?
- _djo_ 4y ago
  DHS didn't start from nothing, it was formed from a bunch of other departments and agencies. Like the Pentagon, there was partial auditing in place in that various levels and entities had internal and external audits, but nothing on the overall organisation level. The Pentagon said it expects to get fully clean audits by FY28. That seems plausible at the current rate of change in their audits.
- Spooky23 4y ago
  Lots an easy statement to make as a pandering politician or internet poster. The military is an insanely complex organization with probably thousands of different financial systems. Whatever a “complete audit” is, you can be sure it will take a long time and get extended many times as congress paints the airplane in flight and changes the standards. The issue is a political football.

by _djo_ 4y ago

jessaustin 4y ago

...it's not that unexpected or unreasonable for a department as large and complex as the Pentagon to take years to reach 100% clean audits. After all, it took DHS a decade. At that point, DHS had existed for just over a decade. Pentagon opened in 1943. Is there a chance that they'll file a complete audit while USA still exists?

_djo_ 4y ago
DHS didn't start from nothing, it was formed from a bunch of other departments and agencies. Like the Pentagon, there was partial auditing in place in that various levels and entities had internal and external audits, but nothing on the overall organisation level. The Pentagon said it expects to get fully clean audits by FY28. That seems plausible at the current rate of change in their audits.
Spooky23 4y ago
Lots an easy statement to make as a pandering politician or internet poster. The military is an insanely complex organization with probably thousands of different financial systems. Whatever a “complete audit” is, you can be sure it will take a long time and get extended many times as congress paints the airplane in flight and changes the standards. The issue is a political football.