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Could you provide an example outside of apple products, to make your distinction clearer? With the examples given, the difference is colored by my feelings abou

by rwolf 15y ago

Could you provide an example outside of apple products, to make your distinction clearer? With the examples given, the difference is colored by my feelings about the companies involved.

arocks 15y ago
It is best to understand the quote in the context of what Picasso meant. This article explains it well: http://www.businessofdesignonline.com/picasso-good-artists-copy/ http://www.businessofdesignonline.com/picasso-good-artists-c...
kalid 15y ago
In programming terms:it's the difference between copy-pasting some code vs. extracting the core design pattern and using that. An important part of a design is the tradeoffs/decisions that went into it, and how it adapts in the face of new circumstances. Copying the final result is a shadow of copying the thinking process.
potatolicious 15y ago
The example that sticks out in my mind are the Sony NEX-series cameras. These are cameras with sensors far larger than most point and shoots, but also do not have the bulk of SLRs - high performance at a pocketable size. Sony's entry into this market came after the extremely innovative and disruptive launch of the Micro-Four Thirds format by Panasonic, Olympus, et al, which were the first products in the category. But far from being a "me too" or a ripoff, Sony took the core concept and advanced it further. They put an even larger sensor into the machine without increasing the bulk, engineered a ground-breaking new viewfinder (generations ahead of anything Panasonic and Olympus had), and put focus into the camera's software that is unprecedented - focus peaking, touch-to-focus, etc. Sony looked at a disruptive entry in the market, distilled it down to its core, and took it further than the incumbents. That is IMHO the difference between "copying" and "stealing".

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Could you provide an example outside of apple products, to make your distinction clearer? With the examples given, the difference is colored by my feelings abou

by rwolf 15y ago

Could you provide an example outside of apple products, to make your distinction clearer? With the examples given, the difference is colored by my feelings about the companies involved.

arocks 15y ago
It is best to understand the quote in the context of what Picasso meant. This article explains it well: http://www.businessofdesignonline.com/picasso-good-artists-copy/ http://www.businessofdesignonline.com/picasso-good-artists-c...
kalid 15y ago
In programming terms:it's the difference between copy-pasting some code vs. extracting the core design pattern and using that. An important part of a design is the tradeoffs/decisions that went into it, and how it adapts in the face of new circumstances. Copying the final result is a shadow of copying the thinking process.
potatolicious 15y ago
The example that sticks out in my mind are the Sony NEX-series cameras. These are cameras with sensors far larger than most point and shoots, but also do not have the bulk of SLRs - high performance at a pocketable size. Sony's entry into this market came after the extremely innovative and disruptive launch of the Micro-Four Thirds format by Panasonic, Olympus, et al, which were the first products in the category. But far from being a "me too" or a ripoff, Sony took the core concept and advanced it further. They put an even larger sensor into the machine without increasing the bulk, engineered a ground-breaking new viewfinder (generations ahead of anything Panasonic and Olympus had), and put focus into the camera's software that is unprecedented - focus peaking, touch-to-focus, etc. Sony looked at a disruptive entry in the market, distilled it down to its core, and took it further than the incumbents. That is IMHO the difference between "copying" and "stealing".