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I have a strong feeling a large amount of “long covid” may be the collective anxiety and stress combined with a reduction in social interaction

by bogota 4y ago

TeeMassive 4y ago
There's also a strong correlation between the demographics of those who tend to have higher rates of mental illness and those who tend to suffer more from long covid.
- mikkergp 4y ago
  Can you point out where I can this data point in the article? I must have missed it.
  - jjcon 4y ago
    https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/980527 https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/980527 “ In an analysis of almost 55,000 adult participants in three ongoing studies, having depression, anxiety, worry, perceived stress, or loneliness early in the pandemic, before SARS-CoV-2 infection, was associated with a 50% increased risk for developing long COVID”
    - mikkergp 4y ago
      According to this article, rates of depression during COVID outbreak, were 27.5%. So, at least a decent chance this happens by chance? Also they mention worry, perceived stress and loneliness. Did anyone not perceive stress during the pandemic? 50% seems like a pretty low correlation. I can’t read your article because it’s login walled. https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/depression-rates-tripled-when-pandemic-first-hit/ https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/depression-rates-tripled-wh...
      - jjcon 4y ago
        No, it was 50% off those that experienced that BEFORE covid - so it was controlled
        mikkergp 4y ago
        Right but 50% of people who had long COVID had experienced “worry, perceived stress, or loneliness” in the past ( not ti mention depression/anxiety) I’d expect that number to be much higher.
        jjcon 4y ago
        > Right but 50% of people who had long COVID had experienced Read more carefully that isn't what the paper showed - it showed that those with previous psychological problems were 50% more likely to have long covid COMPARED to those that didn't have previous problems
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SoftTalker 4y ago
I feel that my skepticism of much of the COVID hysteria, whether actually well-founded or not, helped me avoid a lot of this anxiety and stress over the past couple of years. I took advantage of a nearly 2-year paid "work from home" vacation, and did a lot of other things I probably would not have done otherwise, including joining a gym and getting myself in shape for the first time in my life, and making some new friends.
- bombcar 4y ago
  It can’t have been good for people who are already anxiety-prone or otherwise have mental health issues to be subjected to two years of “going outside will kill everyone you love”.
  - groby_b 4y ago
encryptluks2 4y ago
Anytime there is a new disorder it is completely neglected in science as long as possible despite real suffers being denied real treatment and acknowledgement for a very long time.
- mwint 4y ago
  Thing is, there are lots of things that are completely neglected by science and only some of them are new disorders.
JoshTko 4y ago
It's not. The most common mix of symptoms track closely timing wise post covid onset and do not overlap in general with anxiety and stress symptoms. For example chills, exercise intolerance, difficulty breathing after eating, visual snow, tinnitus.
- bogota 4y ago
  Im not saying long covid doesn’t exist. Only that it is going to be really fun to figure out what it is when a lot of people think they have it. All of those symptoms seem like they could be stress induced to me at any rate. If you find any reviewed studies let me know.
  - JoshTko 4y ago
    Personally I find it odd how confidently you are in your assumptions in an area you state you are uninformed about. It's harmful to perpetuate the perception that long covid sufferers are simply stressed out.
  - JoshTko 4y ago
    Also exercise intolerance is definitely not a stress symptom, exercise is often recommended as remedy for stress. Yet this is one of the most common long covid symptoms.

I have a strong feeling a large amount of “long covid” may be the collective anxiety and stress combined with a reduction in social interaction

by bogota 4y ago

I have a strong feeling a large amount of “long covid” may be the collective anxiety and stress combined with a reduction in social interaction

TeeMassive 4y ago

There's also a strong correlation between the demographics of those who tend to have higher rates of mental illness and those who tend to suffer more from long covid.

mikkergp 4y ago
Can you point out where I can this data point in the article? I must have missed it.
- jjcon 4y ago
  https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/980527 https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/980527 “ In an analysis of almost 55,000 adult participants in three ongoing studies, having depression, anxiety, worry, perceived stress, or loneliness early in the pandemic, before SARS-CoV-2 infection, was associated with a 50% increased risk for developing long COVID”
  - mikkergp 4y ago
    According to this article, rates of depression during COVID outbreak, were 27.5%. So, at least a decent chance this happens by chance? Also they mention worry, perceived stress and loneliness. Did anyone not perceive stress during the pandemic? 50% seems like a pretty low correlation. I can’t read your article because it’s login walled. https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/depression-rates-tripled-when-pandemic-first-hit/ https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/depression-rates-tripled-wh...
    - jjcon 4y ago
      No, it was 50% off those that experienced that BEFORE covid - so it was controlled
      - mikkergp 4y ago
        Right but 50% of people who had long COVID had experienced “worry, perceived stress, or loneliness” in the past ( not ti mention depression/anxiety) I’d expect that number to be much higher.
        jjcon 4y ago
        > Right but 50% of people who had long COVID had experienced Read more carefully that isn't what the paper showed - it showed that those with previous psychological problems were 50% more likely to have long covid COMPARED to those that didn't have previous problems
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SoftTalker 4y ago

I feel that my skepticism of much of the COVID hysteria, whether actually well-founded or not, helped me avoid a lot of this anxiety and stress over the past couple of years. I took advantage of a nearly 2-year paid "work from home" vacation, and did a lot of other things I probably would not have done otherwise, including joining a gym and getting myself in shape for the first time in my life, and making some new friends.

bombcar 4y ago
It can’t have been good for people who are already anxiety-prone or otherwise have mental health issues to be subjected to two years of “going outside will kill everyone you love”.
- groby_b 4y ago

encryptluks2 4y ago

Anytime there is a new disorder it is completely neglected in science as long as possible despite real suffers being denied real treatment and acknowledgement for a very long time.

mwint 4y ago
Thing is, there are lots of things that are completely neglected by science and only some of them are new disorders.

JoshTko 4y ago

It's not. The most common mix of symptoms track closely timing wise post covid onset and do not overlap in general with anxiety and stress symptoms. For example chills, exercise intolerance, difficulty breathing after eating, visual snow, tinnitus.

bogota 4y ago
Im not saying long covid doesn’t exist. Only that it is going to be really fun to figure out what it is when a lot of people think they have it. All of those symptoms seem like they could be stress induced to me at any rate. If you find any reviewed studies let me know.
- JoshTko 4y ago
  Personally I find it odd how confidently you are in your assumptions in an area you state you are uninformed about. It's harmful to perpetuate the perception that long covid sufferers are simply stressed out.
- JoshTko 4y ago
  Also exercise intolerance is definitely not a stress symptom, exercise is often recommended as remedy for stress. Yet this is one of the most common long covid symptoms.