Very true. For how to "solve" those problems in education I have never had any decent ideas. No doubt many readers here have experienced them first hand. I j

Very true. For how to "solve" those problems in education I have never had any decent ideas. No doubt many readers here have experienced them first hand. I just see a lot of attention on "innate" ability, who has it, and why, and less attention placed on effort. I think effort is underrated. That is my biased opinion. Would anyone disagree that if bright kids were forced to have to expend more effort, they might themselves benefit, as they _might_ be more likely to see some of their true potential? No guarantees of course.