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You are wrong. There is one judgement that upholds a form of affirmative action in very narrow circumstances (education) and only in very limited form, and even

You are wrong. There is one judgement that upholds a form of affirmative action in very narrow circumstances (education) and only in very limited form, and even that is challenged in SCOTUS and likely to be overturned: https://www.wgbh.org/news/education/2021/07/22/as-supreme-court-weighs-harvard-admissions-case-two-asian-americans-speak-out-and-allege-bias https://www.wgbh.org/news/education/2021/07/22/as-supreme-co... Racist discrimination is an ugly thing, even when you call it pretty names like "affirmative action". If Affirmative Action was universally legal, than nothing would prevent racist/sexist discrimination as long as you have a nice-sounding excuse for it, and the Civil Rights Act of 1964 would be rendered vacant. Women outnumber men 1.3:1 in college admissions, so Affirmative Action would let me openly discriminate in favor of men in hiring and promotion, as they are evidently a disadvantaged population compared to women.

ForHackernews 4y ago
Men actually do benefit from soft affirmative action in college admissions because of this disparity. You can look this up for yourself, but here's one source[0]. Men are admitted at a higher rate, with worse grades and test scores, by selective universities that want to make sure they have a "balanced" class of undergraduates. [0] https://www.ivywise.com/ivywise-knowledgebase/resources/article/the-truth-about-affirmative-action-for-men/ https://www.ivywise.com/ivywise-knowledgebase/resources/arti...
- Manuel_D 4y ago
  It depends on the university, engineering-oriented schools admit women at higher rates (over 2x in the case of MIT and Harvey Mudd): https://money.com/colleges-women-higher-acceptance-rate/ https://money.com/colleges-women-higher-acceptance-rate/
- NeverFade 4y ago
  Yes, as mentioned above, there is (unfortunately) a controversial ruling (Grutter v. Bollinger) that allows for a form of discrimination in college admissions specifically. This is wrong and should stop. It's an example of SCOTUS judges allowing their political views to to override a clear interpretation of the law.

ForHackernews 4y ago

Men actually do benefit from soft affirmative action in college admissions because of this disparity. You can look this up for yourself, but here's one source[0]. Men are admitted at a higher rate, with worse grades and test scores, by selective universities that want to make sure they have a "balanced" class of undergraduates. [0] https://www.ivywise.com/ivywise-knowledgebase/resources/article/the-truth-about-affirmative-action-for-men/ https://www.ivywise.com/ivywise-knowledgebase/resources/arti...

Manuel_D 4y ago
It depends on the university, engineering-oriented schools admit women at higher rates (over 2x in the case of MIT and Harvey Mudd): https://money.com/colleges-women-higher-acceptance-rate/ https://money.com/colleges-women-higher-acceptance-rate/
NeverFade 4y ago
Yes, as mentioned above, there is (unfortunately) a controversial ruling (Grutter v. Bollinger) that allows for a form of discrimination in college admissions specifically. This is wrong and should stop. It's an example of SCOTUS judges allowing their political views to to override a clear interpretation of the law.