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Was it really routine maintenance to BleachBit an entire server after you receive a subpoena from the FBI?

knodi123 4y ago
Yes, it really was. The FBI investigated and found as much. https://www.denverpost.com/2016/09/03/fbi-report-platte-river-network-employee-bleachbit-delete-clinton-e-mails/ https://www.denverpost.com/2016/09/03/fbi-report-platte-rive...
- phpthrowaway99 4y ago
  I don't see this really addressing the fact that deleting data permanently after you find out the FBI wants to look at those devices is a bit weird.
  - knodi123 4y ago
    A plausible justification was given. It makes sense. It also has nothing to do with Hillary's decision-making. You can call all the people involved liars, or just deny the facts that have been presented to you - but the facts, as presented, do portray innocent behavior.
- bdowling 4y ago
  > In July, FBI Director James B. Comey said while the investigation revealed potential violations, “our judgement is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.” In other words, crimes were probably committed but the FBI dropped the investigation because they figured that no prosecutor would file charges in the case.
nobody9999 4y ago
>Was it really routine maintenance to BleachBit an entire server after you receive a subpoena from the FBI? I would hope so, since presumably the storage devices on that server would either be resold or sent to a dump. The info on those storage devices (assuming backups/existence of that data elsewhere for government data retention purposes) should not be let out into the wild. In fact, I (and I don't work/exist in areas with confidential data) have a dozen or so hard drives that sit in a closet as I don't have the interface cards (any more) to hook them up and securely delete the data. Eventually I'll probably purchase a bulk eraser[0], but until then, those disks will sit in my closet as my business is my business and no one else's. [0] https://www.amazon.com/Degausser-Electricity-Required-Maintenance-Powerful/dp/B011DYA628 https://www.amazon.com/Degausser-Electricity-Required-Mainte...
- phpthrowaway99 4y ago
  I understand why people want to erase hard drives permanently and totally. My point was more about, isn't it a little weird to do so after the FBI says they want to look into the status of said devices.
- bdowling 4y ago
  More info on that degausser. https://www.mediaduplicationsystems.com/sd-1-hard-drive-tape-degausser https://www.mediaduplicationsystems.com/sd-1-hard-drive-tape... On sale, now only $3,990.00 (previously $6,999.99).
  - piaste 4y ago
    If the OP only has a dozen drives to wipe, I think a drill and some liquid to pour over the platters would be a sufficient alternative.
    - nobody9999 4y ago
      >If the OP only has a dozen drives to wipe, I think a drill and some liquid to pour over the platters would be a sufficient alternative. An interesting idea and one I hadn't considered. Thanks!
- knodi123 4y ago
  lol, dude, just take out the screws and toss the platters in the oven. you need software to retrieve data, but not necessarily to destroy it. I made a cool spiral chandelier out of fishing wire and hard drive parts. The platters don't chime as harmoniously as I had hoped, but it still worked out great - and I have enough super fridge magnets to last the rest of my life.

Yes, it really was. The FBI investigated and found as much. https://www.denverpost.com/2016/09/03/fbi-report-platte-river-network-employee-bleachbit-delete-clinton-e-mails/ https://www.denverpost.com/2016/09/03/fbi-report-platte-rive...

phpthrowaway99 4y ago
I don't see this really addressing the fact that deleting data permanently after you find out the FBI wants to look at those devices is a bit weird.
- knodi123 4y ago
  A plausible justification was given. It makes sense. It also has nothing to do with Hillary's decision-making. You can call all the people involved liars, or just deny the facts that have been presented to you - but the facts, as presented, do portray innocent behavior.
bdowling 4y ago
> In July, FBI Director James B. Comey said while the investigation revealed potential violations, “our judgement is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.” In other words, crimes were probably committed but the FBI dropped the investigation because they figured that no prosecutor would file charges in the case.

nobody9999 4y ago

>Was it really routine maintenance to BleachBit an entire server after you receive a subpoena from the FBI? I would hope so, since presumably the storage devices on that server would either be resold or sent to a dump. The info on those storage devices (assuming backups/existence of that data elsewhere for government data retention purposes) should not be let out into the wild. In fact, I (and I don't work/exist in areas with confidential data) have a dozen or so hard drives that sit in a closet as I don't have the interface cards (any more) to hook them up and securely delete the data. Eventually I'll probably purchase a bulk eraser[0], but until then, those disks will sit in my closet as my business is my business and no one else's. [0] https://www.amazon.com/Degausser-Electricity-Required-Maintenance-Powerful/dp/B011DYA628 https://www.amazon.com/Degausser-Electricity-Required-Mainte...

phpthrowaway99 4y ago
I understand why people want to erase hard drives permanently and totally. My point was more about, isn't it a little weird to do so after the FBI says they want to look into the status of said devices.
bdowling 4y ago
More info on that degausser. https://www.mediaduplicationsystems.com/sd-1-hard-drive-tape-degausser https://www.mediaduplicationsystems.com/sd-1-hard-drive-tape... On sale, now only $3,990.00 (previously $6,999.99).
- piaste 4y ago
  If the OP only has a dozen drives to wipe, I think a drill and some liquid to pour over the platters would be a sufficient alternative.
  - nobody9999 4y ago
    >If the OP only has a dozen drives to wipe, I think a drill and some liquid to pour over the platters would be a sufficient alternative. An interesting idea and one I hadn't considered. Thanks!
knodi123 4y ago
lol, dude, just take out the screws and toss the platters in the oven. you need software to retrieve data, but not necessarily to destroy it. I made a cool spiral chandelier out of fishing wire and hard drive parts. The platters don't chime as harmoniously as I had hoped, but it still worked out great - and I have enough super fridge magnets to last the rest of my life.