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What I find most ironic is that those people who are now realizing the same privacy platforms they used to defend with "I have nothing to hide" are the ones com

What I find most ironic is that those people who are now realizing the same privacy platforms they used to defend with "I have nothing to hide" are the ones complying against their interests. It's a poignant example of what others have pointed out. "I have nothing to hide" until political landscape changes to make it something to hide. It's like people pushing for liberal drug laws and legalizing homeless tents and then one day its in their backyard. While I feel for women part of groups that are impacted by Roe vs Wade being overturned, their apathy against privacy concerns have boomeranged, the same of which proportion of men who aren't having to deal with abortion are looking at this issue as "I don't need an abortion so it doesn't concern me". Those women caught up in this struggle also looked on, along with men and everybody else as Uyghur women were sterilized and forced to abort using the very surveillance mechanism that were developed and custom tailored to fit the needs of the abusers. It's almost like the land of CCP is a testing ground for what's in store for Western civilization. Remember what caused Latin America's shift towards tyranny and dictatorship, it was inflation. Nothing about our land that makes it any less susceptible or resilient. Inflation has deep remifications to privacy and this Roe vs Wade situation is only the beginning.

blep_ 4y ago
> men who aren't having to deal with abortion are looking at this issue as "I don't need an abortion so it doesn't concern me". ... maybe we shouldn't have spent years telling them they weren't allowed to have an opinion because it didn't concern them.
- Andrex 4y ago
  Was there a Pope of Abortion Rights that pronounced such an edict? As a man, I haven't encountered this in an abortion discussion, but it sounds like something an asshole would say and I try not to hang out with assholes.
  - blep_ 4y ago
    I've heard variations on it many times, usually by the people who frame it entirely as "right to choose" (-> "if you're not capable of getting pregnant you have no right to input on this"). I get what they're going for, conceptually, but wow that is not how you get allies. It turns out assholes come in all genders.
- shabbatt 4y ago
  > ... maybe we shouldn't have spent years telling them they weren't allowed to have an opinion because it didn't concern them. that never stopped women from doing what they want. you are completely brushing past the main issue which is apathy towards privacy which is not remotely related to women's rights portrayed by mainstream media and your language generalizes 100+ years of women, who regardless societal expectations, went on their own because they believed they had same rights as any other human. It's sad that the same spirit is now being used as shields to derail completely unrelated issues that by mere association of gender, calls for a complete review of a certain political lens that we are all familiar with. Save us the grace here honey.

blep_ 4y ago

> men who aren't having to deal with abortion are looking at this issue as "I don't need an abortion so it doesn't concern me". ... maybe we shouldn't have spent years telling them they weren't allowed to have an opinion because it didn't concern them.

Andrex 4y ago
Was there a Pope of Abortion Rights that pronounced such an edict? As a man, I haven't encountered this in an abortion discussion, but it sounds like something an asshole would say and I try not to hang out with assholes.
- blep_ 4y ago
  I've heard variations on it many times, usually by the people who frame it entirely as "right to choose" (-> "if you're not capable of getting pregnant you have no right to input on this"). I get what they're going for, conceptually, but wow that is not how you get allies. It turns out assholes come in all genders.
shabbatt 4y ago
> ... maybe we shouldn't have spent years telling them they weren't allowed to have an opinion because it didn't concern them. that never stopped women from doing what they want. you are completely brushing past the main issue which is apathy towards privacy which is not remotely related to women's rights portrayed by mainstream media and your language generalizes 100+ years of women, who regardless societal expectations, went on their own because they believed they had same rights as any other human. It's sad that the same spirit is now being used as shields to derail completely unrelated issues that by mere association of gender, calls for a complete review of a certain political lens that we are all familiar with. Save us the grace here honey.