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I guess nobody ATM, but if the support for NTFS becomes really good then why not use it as your root fs? It's truly battle hardened (the fs, not this particular

I guess nobody ATM, but if the support for NTFS becomes really good then why not use it as your root fs? It's truly battle hardened (the fs, not this particular implementation necessarily), and it is really nice to use an fs that is supported in both Linux and windows if you're dual booting.

cma 4y ago
Isn't NTFS incapable of caching as well or something due to extra layers of indirection, and that is why git is so slow (10-100X) on windows? Or is it another part of windows that slows it down? (Edit: seems to be a combination https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/873#issuecomment-425272829 https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/873#issuecomment-425... )
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- Mindless2112 4y ago
  "NTFS really isn't that bad" -- https://web.archive.org/web/https://lca2020.linux.org.au/schedule/presentation/38/ https://web.archive.org/web/https://lca2020.linux.org.au/sch...
- HideousKojima 4y ago
  NTFS has poor performance with lots of small files.
  - marwis 4y ago
    That's Windows VFS layer. If you bypass it and read disk structures directly it's wicked fast. There are many file tools that do it such as Everything and WizTree.
- selfhoster11 4y ago
  Real-time antivirus scanning likely doesn't help. Most Linux users are unlikely to have this running in the background.
com2kid 4y ago
NTFS has horrible small file performance, to the extent that if you are working on a project that has lots of small files (NodeJS for example) you can expect performance that is 2-3x worse than on other file systems. Even unzipping archives with lots of small files takes forever, it is easy for a modern SSD to slow down to 5MB/s or less when trying to write out tons of small files to an NTFS partition. NTFS is old and stable, but it is not fast by modern standards.
- marwis 4y ago
  That's a limitation of Windows' VFS rather than NTFS disk format

cma 4y ago

Isn't NTFS incapable of caching as well or something due to extra layers of indirection, and that is why git is so slow (10-100X) on windows? Or is it another part of windows that slows it down? (Edit: seems to be a combination https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/873#issuecomment-425272829 https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/873#issuecomment-425... )

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Mindless2112 4y ago
"NTFS really isn't that bad" -- https://web.archive.org/web/https://lca2020.linux.org.au/schedule/presentation/38/ https://web.archive.org/web/https://lca2020.linux.org.au/sch...
HideousKojima 4y ago
NTFS has poor performance with lots of small files.
- marwis 4y ago
  That's Windows VFS layer. If you bypass it and read disk structures directly it's wicked fast. There are many file tools that do it such as Everything and WizTree.
selfhoster11 4y ago
Real-time antivirus scanning likely doesn't help. Most Linux users are unlikely to have this running in the background.

com2kid 4y ago

NTFS has horrible small file performance, to the extent that if you are working on a project that has lots of small files (NodeJS for example) you can expect performance that is 2-3x worse than on other file systems. Even unzipping archives with lots of small files takes forever, it is easy for a modern SSD to slow down to 5MB/s or less when trying to write out tons of small files to an NTFS partition. NTFS is old and stable, but it is not fast by modern standards.

marwis 4y ago
That's a limitation of Windows' VFS rather than NTFS disk format