> Again that would be request tracing, not application logging. from what ive seen people who rely on logs do not have proper request tracing and/or metrics.

> Again that would be request tracing, not application logging. from what ive seen people who rely on logs do not have proper request tracing and/or metrics. its much simpler to dump a bunch of unformatted junk to stdout and throw elasticsearch at it, but not a good experience. i agree overall, i find logs to be a last resort with really bad signal to noise ratio.