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I don’t like ads, especially not irrelevant and excessive ones (I pay for YouTube premium), but the amount of people bragging about getting around ads is just s

I don’t like ads, especially not irrelevant and excessive ones (I pay for YouTube premium), but the amount of people bragging about getting around ads is just sad. I assume most of us here have jobs. Are we ok with working for free? Many people on YouTube do it full time, with ad revenue and exposure being their primary source of income. Somehow some people have it in their heads that if the job is entertainment then it’s not worth paying for, but is simultaneously worth consuming.

eek2121 4y ago
The issue to me is cost vs benefit to creators. I do back a few of my favorite Youtubers on Patreon (actually, I pay them each more than I would pay YouTube), however, creators actually receive very little from YouTube Premium subscriptions.
- max51 4y ago
  >creators actually receive very little from YouTube Premium subscriptions. They actually receive a lot more cash for per view from YouTube premium viewers compared to free ad-supported users. And it's not even close, we're talking an order of magnitude more money per view when it's youtube premium
tomjen3 4y ago
I was at the busstop this morning. There was an ad. I turned my back to it and looked at my phone. Please tell me that I am a horrible human for defrauding the advertisers. If I could get AR glasses which automatically removes any ad before I see it, I be a bad person too?
- endisneigh 4y ago
  No, that would be fine - it’s not really the analogous situation. If the bus were “free” and you paid by spending 30 seconds watching an ad, disabling the device showing you the ad would be bad, not paying attention would be fine.
  - tomjen3 4y ago
    Of course disabling the device would be bad, as it is somebody else property. However the bus service is, at least in part, subsidised by ads. So, while not free, exactly, it is cheaper.
isthisthingon99 4y ago
> I don’t like ads, especially not irrelevant and excessive ones (I pay for YouTube premium), but the amount of people bragging about getting around ads is just sad. Same. At this point, I'm making $XK/day and to think I can't spend some tiny fraction of that to support the people who create the content... seems morally wrong to me. YouTube made it easy.
marssaxman 4y ago
> Many people on YouTube do it full time, with ad revenue and exposure being their primary source of income. As the old saying goes, "your failed business model is not my problem". Many, many people would like to make a living as performers, or creators generally, but very few succeed. If we want a world with more full-time artists, rather than forcing unwanted ads down our own throats to subsidize youtube video-makers, we'd be better off creating a basic income system.
sleepymoose 4y ago
> Are we ok with working for free? No, which is why I decided to pursue a career where I'm paid based on a salary, protected by employee rights (even if limited in the US), and not beholden to a single corporation's platofrm to perform my job. Most of the youtubers I watch aren't making a living off of it, and the few that do are able to do so because they've monetized outside of the YouTube platform. Nothing you say will make me feel a single twinge of guilt over using ad blockers.
- d_tr 4y ago
  Do you support the YouTubers you watch through the alternative channels then?
  - leereeves 4y ago
    Most YouTubers have sponsors who they mention in the video. If there must be advertising, I prefer that kind, because the creator gets 100% of the revenue.
  - JohnFen 4y ago
    I do, for the ones I watch regularly. Sadly, I do this through Patreon, which appears to be dying.

eek2121 4y ago

The issue to me is cost vs benefit to creators. I do back a few of my favorite Youtubers on Patreon (actually, I pay them each more than I would pay YouTube), however, creators actually receive very little from YouTube Premium subscriptions.

max51 4y ago
>creators actually receive very little from YouTube Premium subscriptions. They actually receive a lot more cash for per view from YouTube premium viewers compared to free ad-supported users. And it's not even close, we're talking an order of magnitude more money per view when it's youtube premium

tomjen3 4y ago

I was at the busstop this morning. There was an ad. I turned my back to it and looked at my phone. Please tell me that I am a horrible human for defrauding the advertisers. If I could get AR glasses which automatically removes any ad before I see it, I be a bad person too?

endisneigh 4y ago
No, that would be fine - it’s not really the analogous situation. If the bus were “free” and you paid by spending 30 seconds watching an ad, disabling the device showing you the ad would be bad, not paying attention would be fine.
- tomjen3 4y ago
  Of course disabling the device would be bad, as it is somebody else property. However the bus service is, at least in part, subsidised by ads. So, while not free, exactly, it is cheaper.

isthisthingon99 4y ago

> I don’t like ads, especially not irrelevant and excessive ones (I pay for YouTube premium), but the amount of people bragging about getting around ads is just sad. Same. At this point, I'm making $XK/day and to think I can't spend some tiny fraction of that to support the people who create the content... seems morally wrong to me. YouTube made it easy.

marssaxman 4y ago

> Many people on YouTube do it full time, with ad revenue and exposure being their primary source of income. As the old saying goes, "your failed business model is not my problem". Many, many people would like to make a living as performers, or creators generally, but very few succeed. If we want a world with more full-time artists, rather than forcing unwanted ads down our own throats to subsidize youtube video-makers, we'd be better off creating a basic income system.

sleepymoose 4y ago

> Are we ok with working for free? No, which is why I decided to pursue a career where I'm paid based on a salary, protected by employee rights (even if limited in the US), and not beholden to a single corporation's platofrm to perform my job. Most of the youtubers I watch aren't making a living off of it, and the few that do are able to do so because they've monetized outside of the YouTube platform. Nothing you say will make me feel a single twinge of guilt over using ad blockers.

d_tr 4y ago
Do you support the YouTubers you watch through the alternative channels then?
- leereeves 4y ago
  Most YouTubers have sponsors who they mention in the video. If there must be advertising, I prefer that kind, because the creator gets 100% of the revenue.
- JohnFen 4y ago
  I do, for the ones I watch regularly. Sadly, I do this through Patreon, which appears to be dying.