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Yup, compare this to the awesome "New and noteworthy" posts that Eclipse publishes for each new version: https://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/news/4.25/jdt.php http

Yup, compare this to the awesome "New and noteworthy" posts that Eclipse publishes for each new version: https://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/news/4.25/jdt.php https://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/news/4.25/jdt.php This is also probably a reflection that NetBeans is a project on fast path to extinction.

snapetom 4y ago
That "fast path" has been over 20 years long. That's an incredible amount of time for a software development tool.
- Macha 4y ago
  I mean, netbeans was on the ascent at least as recent as 10 years ago, but then intellij stole their thunder, and eclipse held onto a core userbase more so than netbeans did.
  - curun1r 4y ago
    Heh…I remember attending a Java dev conference in 2006 where attendees thought the mention of using NetBeans for professional development was a joke. Like the presenter prefaced a statement with, “if you use NetBeans…” and he wasn’t able to finish the sentence over the noise from the whole room erupting in laughter. It has literally been a joke for at least 16 years.
Longlius 4y ago
There are countless companies running bizarre internal applications written using the NetBeans interface builder and I know for a fact they will never migrate away from it. It's certainly the also-ran of Java IDEs but 'extinction' is a little hyperbolic.
marwis 4y ago
The sad part is that before Apache takeover they had pretty decent website that put all the features and screenshots to the front: https://web.archive.org/web/20160708090748/https://netbeans.org/ https://web.archive.org/web/20160708090748/https://netbeans.... https://web.archive.org/web/20160708091639/https://netbeans.org/features/index.html#o1 https://web.archive.org/web/20160708091639/https://netbeans.... Why did they waste time redoing it into something so useless is beyond me.
- whartung 4y ago
  Because all of that was owned by Oracle and they didn't grant it to Apache.

snapetom 4y ago

That "fast path" has been over 20 years long. That's an incredible amount of time for a software development tool.

Macha 4y ago
I mean, netbeans was on the ascent at least as recent as 10 years ago, but then intellij stole their thunder, and eclipse held onto a core userbase more so than netbeans did.
- curun1r 4y ago
  Heh…I remember attending a Java dev conference in 2006 where attendees thought the mention of using NetBeans for professional development was a joke. Like the presenter prefaced a statement with, “if you use NetBeans…” and he wasn’t able to finish the sentence over the noise from the whole room erupting in laughter. It has literally been a joke for at least 16 years.

Longlius 4y ago

There are countless companies running bizarre internal applications written using the NetBeans interface builder and I know for a fact they will never migrate away from it. It's certainly the also-ran of Java IDEs but 'extinction' is a little hyperbolic.

marwis 4y ago

The sad part is that before Apache takeover they had pretty decent website that put all the features and screenshots to the front: https://web.archive.org/web/20160708090748/https://netbeans.org/ https://web.archive.org/web/20160708090748/https://netbeans.... https://web.archive.org/web/20160708091639/https://netbeans.org/features/index.html#o1 https://web.archive.org/web/20160708091639/https://netbeans.... Why did they waste time redoing it into something so useless is beyond me.

whartung 4y ago
Because all of that was owned by Oracle and they didn't grant it to Apache.