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I'm not white I'm latino. I can't imagine what I would feel like if my company said something like this and I was a white guy. I guess I would be really sad, o

I'm not white I'm latino. I can't imagine what I would feel like if my company said something like this and I was a white guy. I guess I would be really sad, offended and discriminated.

belval 4y ago
To be clear, I am 100% onboard with diversity and inclusion, I do believe in giving a fair chance to under-represented groups and I'd be happy to report discrimination in my organization to HR so that we can all build a more positive work environment for my coworkers. But this is something else, instead of saying "we will fire the bottom 11% of performers in the team" or "we fire the bottom 11% based on seniority", they come outright and say that when choosing between two "similar" employees they will fire the least "diverse" person. It's madness.
- lkbm 4y ago
  > they come outright and say that when choosing between two "similar" employees they will fire the least "diverse" person. They don't come outright and say that. They come outright and say something that could mean that, but could also mean "when choosing between two "similar" employees, we ensured we didn't always fire the most "diverse" person." When faced with multiple possible interpretations, you're treating the one you find offensive as the only possibility. It's not. It might be the case, but there's no way to know from the text.
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pookha 4y ago
I've seen hispanics from Mexico that look like Henry the 8th. Theoretically I'm assuming that they'll be singled out by this cult too. Being a latino won't help.
pastor_bob 4y ago
Latino isn't a race.
- pc86 4y ago
  Not sure why this is downvoted, it's true. Latin origin is an ethnicity, it's not a race. Most people in South American are of latin origin. Many of them are black. They're two completely separate things.
itronitron 4y ago
A white guy laid off in that instance would probably feel relieved. To elaborate, white men already reference diversity metrics to rationalize why they were not hired so naturally they would do the same when laid off.
- Bakary 4y ago
  Do you not realize how discriminatory this statement is? Can you imagine making a similar statement about a different ethnographic group?
  - itronitron 4y ago
    Apparently not. As a white guy I don't think it would really be appropriate for me to make a similar statement about other groups.
    - Bakary 4y ago
      On the face of it, it doesn't make much sense that your ethnicity should affect the truth value of your statement. Being a certain ethnicity can make you more likely to have the requisite experience for certain perspectives, but it can't actually alter the reality of an argument. Even if you make a generalization about your own ethnicity, it's still a generalization that's not particularly helpful. If an argument is considered inappropriate because it targets a different ethnicity and is also an unhelpful generalization, it does not suddenly become helpful when retargeted to the speakers' own group.
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I'm not white I'm latino. I can't imagine what I would feel like if my company said something like this and I was a white guy. I guess I would be really sad, offended and discriminated.

belval 4y ago

To be clear, I am 100% onboard with diversity and inclusion, I do believe in giving a fair chance to under-represented groups and I'd be happy to report discrimination in my organization to HR so that we can all build a more positive work environment for my coworkers. But this is something else, instead of saying "we will fire the bottom 11% of performers in the team" or "we fire the bottom 11% based on seniority", they come outright and say that when choosing between two "similar" employees they will fire the least "diverse" person. It's madness.

lkbm 4y ago
> they come outright and say that when choosing between two "similar" employees they will fire the least "diverse" person. They don't come outright and say that. They come outright and say something that could mean that, but could also mean "when choosing between two "similar" employees, we ensured we didn't always fire the most "diverse" person." When faced with multiple possible interpretations, you're treating the one you find offensive as the only possibility. It's not. It might be the case, but there's no way to know from the text.
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pookha 4y ago

I've seen hispanics from Mexico that look like Henry the 8th. Theoretically I'm assuming that they'll be singled out by this cult too. Being a latino won't help.

pastor_bob 4y ago

Latino isn't a race.

pc86 4y ago
Not sure why this is downvoted, it's true. Latin origin is an ethnicity, it's not a race. Most people in South American are of latin origin. Many of them are black. They're two completely separate things.

itronitron 4y ago

A white guy laid off in that instance would probably feel relieved. To elaborate, white men already reference diversity metrics to rationalize why they were not hired so naturally they would do the same when laid off.

Bakary 4y ago
Do you not realize how discriminatory this statement is? Can you imagine making a similar statement about a different ethnographic group?
- itronitron 4y ago
  Apparently not. As a white guy I don't think it would really be appropriate for me to make a similar statement about other groups.
  - Bakary 4y ago
    On the face of it, it doesn't make much sense that your ethnicity should affect the truth value of your statement. Being a certain ethnicity can make you more likely to have the requisite experience for certain perspectives, but it can't actually alter the reality of an argument. Even if you make a generalization about your own ethnicity, it's still a generalization that's not particularly helpful. If an argument is considered inappropriate because it targets a different ethnicity and is also an unhelpful generalization, it does not suddenly become helpful when retargeted to the speakers' own group.

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