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Mine is: "I will be expecting your credit card and bank information on my table in the morning"

by philipov 4y ago

yibg 4y ago
Or "describe all your past sexual encounters". Granted, some might be ok with it, but most won't feel comfortable.
- jll29 4y ago
  In any case, your phone provider knows - co-occurring presence of the same two phones in the same grid cell at the same time (esp. night). By implication, what your provider knows, governments also know - they have a direct line.
  - jbay808 4y ago
    That is not a record of a sexual encounter.
    - Smoosh 4y ago
      "close enough for government work"
- daniel-cussen 4y ago
  Dude basically sign a document cosenting to consenting to any document. Sell your soul.
kritiko 4y ago
I think the reason most people are wary of sharing banking information is that they are worried you would exploit it or because of social norms not to talk about money, not that they have something to hide.
- beermonster 4y ago
  ‘Something to hide’ in English often has a negative connotation meaning deliberately trying to deceive or something bad they did and don’t want you to know about. Better would be to not use that phrase as most people have something they wish to remain private or secret, without it being anything sinister. Like their password for example !
- philipov 4y ago
  What better reason to hide something than because you think people will exploit that knowledge to harm you? You don't even need to think the party you're giving the information to will abuse it. Can you trust them to not pass it on or have it stolen from them? We have many many examples of why you should not.
  - kritiko 4y ago
    >"I will be expecting your credit card and bank information on my table in the morning" I've shared this (or similar info) with landlords and realtors and platforms that I don't trust. That's life.
    - philipov 4y ago
      The point is that just because you have something to hide doesn't mean you've done anything wrong. You might end up sharing that information in certain situations, but carefully. The framing those who promulgate that phrasing want to push is that not wanting to share information with the government makes you suspicious, because your only possible reason could be wrongdoing. This notion is hostile to liberty and security.
- pessimizer 4y ago
  That's a arbitrary limiting of "something to hide." A: "I have nothing to hide." B: "Give me your bank details." A: "Not like that! That's not something to hide because I'm hiding them to protect my savings." B: "The reason other people hide things is also to protect themselves, their property, and their loved ones."

Mine is: "I will be expecting your credit card and bank information on my table in the morning"

yibg 4y ago

Or "describe all your past sexual encounters". Granted, some might be ok with it, but most won't feel comfortable.

jll29 4y ago
In any case, your phone provider knows - co-occurring presence of the same two phones in the same grid cell at the same time (esp. night). By implication, what your provider knows, governments also know - they have a direct line.
- jbay808 4y ago
  That is not a record of a sexual encounter.
  - Smoosh 4y ago
    "close enough for government work"
daniel-cussen 4y ago
Dude basically sign a document cosenting to consenting to any document. Sell your soul.

kritiko 4y ago

I think the reason most people are wary of sharing banking information is that they are worried you would exploit it or because of social norms not to talk about money, not that they have something to hide.

beermonster 4y ago
‘Something to hide’ in English often has a negative connotation meaning deliberately trying to deceive or something bad they did and don’t want you to know about. Better would be to not use that phrase as most people have something they wish to remain private or secret, without it being anything sinister. Like their password for example !
philipov 4y ago
What better reason to hide something than because you think people will exploit that knowledge to harm you? You don't even need to think the party you're giving the information to will abuse it. Can you trust them to not pass it on or have it stolen from them? We have many many examples of why you should not.
- kritiko 4y ago
  >"I will be expecting your credit card and bank information on my table in the morning" I've shared this (or similar info) with landlords and realtors and platforms that I don't trust. That's life.
  - philipov 4y ago
    The point is that just because you have something to hide doesn't mean you've done anything wrong. You might end up sharing that information in certain situations, but carefully. The framing those who promulgate that phrasing want to push is that not wanting to share information with the government makes you suspicious, because your only possible reason could be wrongdoing. This notion is hostile to liberty and security.
pessimizer 4y ago
That's a arbitrary limiting of "something to hide." A: "I have nothing to hide." B: "Give me your bank details." A: "Not like that! That's not something to hide because I'm hiding them to protect my savings." B: "The reason other people hide things is also to protect themselves, their property, and their loved ones."