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What do I have to hide? Legally, nothing. In my day-to-day life, I don't do anything that is a crime. I'm not using lots of drugs, I'm not into illegal porn, I'

What do I have to hide? Legally, nothing. In my day-to-day life, I don't do anything that is a crime. I'm not using lots of drugs, I'm not into illegal porn, I'm not committing fraud, robbing banks, or planning anything illegal. But I still don't want everyone to know what porn I view, what I did as a child, what I plan on doing next year, or when I am or I am not at home. While I may having nothing I need to hide, I have lots of things I want to hide. It's just happens that all the stuff I don't care about hiding are all the things these privacy consuming companies want. For others, they want to hide more and that's ok too.

spaetzleesser 4y ago
" I don't do anything that is a crime" You may be doing something right now that may be viewed as a crime in the future. Abortion comes to mind but I am sure there are more.
- that_guy_iain 4y ago
  I think you miss the point, I said I have nothing to hide yet still want to hide things. Also, there is only one time I can think of where someone has been convicted of a crime while it was legal when they did it and it was The Pirate Bay conviction. Everything else, it's always been if it's legal while you do it, it's legal. That holds true for abortion.
pclmulqdq 4y ago
You have no idea whether you are currently committing any crimes. The US code is something like 80,000 pages and includes several felonies like carrying a sharpie or a screwdriver around in public or using a fake name on the internet. In the EU, the situation is similar. Nobody has any idea what they have to hide legally.
- that_guy_iain 4y ago
  No, I'm really certain I'm not committing crimes. Living a rather boring life, where I work almost non-stop and use the internet. Many of the laws you are referring to are basically dead laws. You couldn't convict someone if you tried.
  - 0x457 4y ago
    You telling you never got a cent that you haven't reported to IRS? Doubt it.
    - that_guy_iain 4y ago
      Not American, taxes are paid automatically.
      - 0x457 4y ago
        Taxes are not paid automatically, regardless where you are, on transactions like: - Sold something in person for cash - Gifts over a certain amount depending on the country - Bartered items and services - Gambling winnings - Forgiven debt
  - iudqnolq 4y ago
    Have you ever deposited a large sum of cash less than $10,000 in a bank account? Whether or not that's a crime depends on the state of your mind when you did it, which can be hard for you to produce to defend yourself.
    - Minor49er 4y ago
      It would be up to a plaintiff to prove that they knew his state of mind at the time of the deposit
      - iudqnolq 4y ago
        You mean the prosecution, and in theory you're right. Yet in practice many jury members believe their job is to find their best guess of the truth, not hold the state to their burden. So if you can't present evidence in your own defense you can still loose. Plus, the process is sufficient punishment. Before you're acquitted you may lose your job and have to spend large amounts of money.
  - Arrath 4y ago
crooked-v 4y ago
You don't have anything you need to hide now, but as seen with Republicans in the US, there are major political parties that will happily criminalize and prosecute basic aspects of bodily function if they get the chance.

spaetzleesser 4y ago

" I don't do anything that is a crime" You may be doing something right now that may be viewed as a crime in the future. Abortion comes to mind but I am sure there are more.

that_guy_iain 4y ago
I think you miss the point, I said I have nothing to hide yet still want to hide things. Also, there is only one time I can think of where someone has been convicted of a crime while it was legal when they did it and it was The Pirate Bay conviction. Everything else, it's always been if it's legal while you do it, it's legal. That holds true for abortion.

pclmulqdq 4y ago

You have no idea whether you are currently committing any crimes. The US code is something like 80,000 pages and includes several felonies like carrying a sharpie or a screwdriver around in public or using a fake name on the internet. In the EU, the situation is similar. Nobody has any idea what they have to hide legally.

that_guy_iain 4y ago
No, I'm really certain I'm not committing crimes. Living a rather boring life, where I work almost non-stop and use the internet. Many of the laws you are referring to are basically dead laws. You couldn't convict someone if you tried.
- 0x457 4y ago
  You telling you never got a cent that you haven't reported to IRS? Doubt it.
  - that_guy_iain 4y ago
    Not American, taxes are paid automatically.
    - 0x457 4y ago
      Taxes are not paid automatically, regardless where you are, on transactions like: - Sold something in person for cash - Gifts over a certain amount depending on the country - Bartered items and services - Gambling winnings - Forgiven debt
- iudqnolq 4y ago
  Have you ever deposited a large sum of cash less than $10,000 in a bank account? Whether or not that's a crime depends on the state of your mind when you did it, which can be hard for you to produce to defend yourself.
  - Minor49er 4y ago
    It would be up to a plaintiff to prove that they knew his state of mind at the time of the deposit
    - iudqnolq 4y ago
      You mean the prosecution, and in theory you're right. Yet in practice many jury members believe their job is to find their best guess of the truth, not hold the state to their burden. So if you can't present evidence in your own defense you can still loose. Plus, the process is sufficient punishment. Before you're acquitted you may lose your job and have to spend large amounts of money.
- Arrath 4y ago

crooked-v 4y ago

You don't have anything you need to hide now, but as seen with Republicans in the US, there are major political parties that will happily criminalize and prosecute basic aspects of bodily function if they get the chance.