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Keep shooting themselves in the foot

by protocontrol 4y ago

rco8786 4y ago
Are they? What’s the alternative?
- zarzavat 4y ago
  An adblocker. I don’t see any ads on YouTube at all.
- nuc1e0n 4y ago
  An alternative will be produced if youtube becomes a hassle to use. 30 years ago people watched television, but the ads became too numerous. Now only boomers watch it at all.
  - rco8786 4y ago
    > 30 years ago people watched television, but the ads became too numerous. Now only boomers watch it at all. The current state of streaming tv is no better than cable in terms of ads
  - ranger47 4y ago
    Nebula is trying to bill itself as an alternative, but I am not convinced it will gain the traction it needs to become what we might call a YT alternative. Users have griped about the ads on YT for years now, yet they keep using it, which just affirms that YT can inject as many ads as it wants without risking its user base. By continuing to use a product we complain about, we are giving that product permission to continue doing things we don't like.
    - JohnFen 4y ago
      I gave Nebula an honest try, but their Android app was effectively unusable for me, so I cancelled my subscription.
      - mrguyorama 4y ago
        I literally don't use the web site, but I pay for it because all the best creators are part of it, and I don't like the parasocial bullcrap that happens in patreon so it's a good alternative to support those creators more directly. No, I don't want to pretend to be your friend in a discord chat, I want to pay your bills so you can continue pushing out a video occasionally that is incredibly well done.
    - soco 4y ago
      I have Vimeo and DailyMotion installed but I almost never find stuff there...
  - kornhole 4y ago
    Alternatives are growing: Odysee, Rumble, Peertube..
  - Arnt 4y ago
    Right, but what alternative? The people who pay for the production of that alternative will want to make a profit, so if you don't like the way Youtube makes a profit, be careful with assuming anything about a hypothetical future alternative.
  - sofixa 4y ago
    There are already alternatives, with alternative models (Vimeo - the creator pays; Nebula - the consumer pays a subscription to watch all the content), yet YouTube remains by far the most popular.
- dkjaudyeqooe 4y ago
  Besides ad blockers there are also apps that will play YT videos ad free.
- flotzam 4y ago
  Piped is a lightweight web frontend for YouTube: https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped/wiki/Instances https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped/wiki/Instances
- dpkirchner 4y ago
  I wonder if we'll see companies like Netflix try to bring some popular high-quality YT channels over to their platform.

Keep shooting themselves in the foot

rco8786 4y ago

Are they? What’s the alternative?

zarzavat 4y ago
An adblocker. I don’t see any ads on YouTube at all.
nuc1e0n 4y ago
An alternative will be produced if youtube becomes a hassle to use. 30 years ago people watched television, but the ads became too numerous. Now only boomers watch it at all.
- rco8786 4y ago
  > 30 years ago people watched television, but the ads became too numerous. Now only boomers watch it at all. The current state of streaming tv is no better than cable in terms of ads
- ranger47 4y ago
  Nebula is trying to bill itself as an alternative, but I am not convinced it will gain the traction it needs to become what we might call a YT alternative. Users have griped about the ads on YT for years now, yet they keep using it, which just affirms that YT can inject as many ads as it wants without risking its user base. By continuing to use a product we complain about, we are giving that product permission to continue doing things we don't like.
  - JohnFen 4y ago
    I gave Nebula an honest try, but their Android app was effectively unusable for me, so I cancelled my subscription.
    - mrguyorama 4y ago
      I literally don't use the web site, but I pay for it because all the best creators are part of it, and I don't like the parasocial bullcrap that happens in patreon so it's a good alternative to support those creators more directly. No, I don't want to pretend to be your friend in a discord chat, I want to pay your bills so you can continue pushing out a video occasionally that is incredibly well done.
  - soco 4y ago
    I have Vimeo and DailyMotion installed but I almost never find stuff there...
- kornhole 4y ago
  Alternatives are growing: Odysee, Rumble, Peertube..
- Arnt 4y ago
  Right, but what alternative? The people who pay for the production of that alternative will want to make a profit, so if you don't like the way Youtube makes a profit, be careful with assuming anything about a hypothetical future alternative.
- sofixa 4y ago
  There are already alternatives, with alternative models (Vimeo - the creator pays; Nebula - the consumer pays a subscription to watch all the content), yet YouTube remains by far the most popular.
dkjaudyeqooe 4y ago
Besides ad blockers there are also apps that will play YT videos ad free.
flotzam 4y ago
Piped is a lightweight web frontend for YouTube: https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped/wiki/Instances https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped/wiki/Instances
dpkirchner 4y ago
I wonder if we'll see companies like Netflix try to bring some popular high-quality YT channels over to their platform.