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That kind of demonstrates the importance and value of a good CEO though. A couple dumb decisions by an assembly worker won't kill a company. A few bad decisions

That kind of demonstrates the importance and value of a good CEO though. A couple dumb decisions by an assembly worker won't kill a company. A few bad decisions by a CEO can.

Gigachad 4y ago
I think most job salaries can be linked directly to how much of a difference the employee can make. A complete dud at McDonalds in the kitchen might cost a few thousand on average but the further you go up, the greater the damage or benefit potential gets.
- JadeNB 4y ago
  > I think most job salaries can be linked directly to how much of a difference the employee can make. I think that the world's, or at least the US's, teachers are a glaring counterexample.
  - badpun 4y ago
    The problem is that the value that teachers create is hard to compute and hard to capture, so in the end, no one is willing to pay for it.
    - specialist 4y ago
      David Graeber, of Bullshit Jobs fame, makes the distinction between service work and caring work. Doing things vs taking care of other humans. Part of his thesis is that society undervalues the labor of caring workers, because they get so much "job satisfaction". Teachers and nurses are examples of caring work. I lean towards Graeber's thesis, mostly because I haven't read any other explanation for this pathology, so Graeber wins by default.
    - baud147258 4y ago
      > no one is willing to pay for it parents paying for private schools seem to be willing to pay that for their children
      - quesera 4y ago
        Private school teachers are often paid less than public school teachers, and do not have a union or a pension.
      - JadeNB 4y ago
        > parents paying for private schools seem to be willing to pay that for their children Exactly—people aren't willing to pay for someone else's education, but everyone needs an education, so teachers who care enough that they are willing to teach for minuscule pay wind up squeezed between societal apathy and societal need.
JadeNB 4y ago
> That kind of demonstrates the importance and value of a good CEO though. A couple dumb decisions by an assembly worker won't kill a company. A few bad decisions by a CEO can. A few dumb (or malicious) decisions by an assembly worker can cause enormous damage and incur enormous cost.
eloisant 4y ago
Except the bad CEO still gets a big salary, and a golden parachute when he leaves the sinking ship of the company he killed. And then proceed to get hired as CEO for the next company.

That kind of demonstrates the importance and value of a good CEO though. A couple dumb decisions by an assembly worker won't kill a company. A few bad decisions by a CEO can.

Gigachad 4y ago

I think most job salaries can be linked directly to how much of a difference the employee can make. A complete dud at McDonalds in the kitchen might cost a few thousand on average but the further you go up, the greater the damage or benefit potential gets.

JadeNB 4y ago
> I think most job salaries can be linked directly to how much of a difference the employee can make. I think that the world's, or at least the US's, teachers are a glaring counterexample.
- badpun 4y ago
  The problem is that the value that teachers create is hard to compute and hard to capture, so in the end, no one is willing to pay for it.
  - specialist 4y ago
    David Graeber, of Bullshit Jobs fame, makes the distinction between service work and caring work. Doing things vs taking care of other humans. Part of his thesis is that society undervalues the labor of caring workers, because they get so much "job satisfaction". Teachers and nurses are examples of caring work. I lean towards Graeber's thesis, mostly because I haven't read any other explanation for this pathology, so Graeber wins by default.
  - baud147258 4y ago
    > no one is willing to pay for it parents paying for private schools seem to be willing to pay that for their children
    - quesera 4y ago
      Private school teachers are often paid less than public school teachers, and do not have a union or a pension.
    - JadeNB 4y ago
      > parents paying for private schools seem to be willing to pay that for their children Exactly—people aren't willing to pay for someone else's education, but everyone needs an education, so teachers who care enough that they are willing to teach for minuscule pay wind up squeezed between societal apathy and societal need.

JadeNB 4y ago

> That kind of demonstrates the importance and value of a good CEO though. A couple dumb decisions by an assembly worker won't kill a company. A few bad decisions by a CEO can. A few dumb (or malicious) decisions by an assembly worker can cause enormous damage and incur enormous cost.

eloisant 4y ago

Except the bad CEO still gets a big salary, and a golden parachute when he leaves the sinking ship of the company he killed. And then proceed to get hired as CEO for the next company.