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I could not imagine being a nurse or a teacher in the US right now. I wish they realized that they have the leverage and can go on strike. I imagine that's di
by hollywood_court 4y ago
I could not imagine being a nurse or a teacher in the US right now. I wish they realized that they have the leverage and can go on strike. I imagine that's difficult for many of them as they most certainly need the income. A rock and a hard place. I always smile when I read about a nurse or teacher switching to a completely different career field and finding themselves more content.
- mud_dauber 4y agoMy wife (ER/ICU nursing) walked away from a 25 yr career. She ended up in the kitchen of an upscale grocery store - still working with her hands for 1/3 the salary. (Granted, we could withstand the financial hit.) She would still come home bone-tired after being on her feet for a shift - but much more interested in the work. Not having to deal with the public was another big benefit -the epidemic turned too many people into **holes.
- ethbr0 4y agoInteresting factoid: "computer programmer" + "nurse" are one of the most common spousal profession pairings. Per a recent HN link/study.
- sudom82 4y agoDo you have a link to said study?
- ethbr0 4y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29003986 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29003986
- sudom82 4y agoThanks, appreciate it!
- 29083011397778 4y agoI've put in a few classifications my job could fall under, and gotten RN for at least two. Perhaps there's just more nurses than people assume or realise?
- aaaaaaaaata 4y agoAnyone have a link?
- ask_b123 4y agoCould you link to the thread please?
- blarg1 4y agoThat's my parents :)
- another2another 4y agoWell I'm a data point then, also another colleague. But despite our respective professions, I still get ignored when I'm sick, and she can fix her own iTunes problems 'cos I just don't have a clue.
- goodpoint 4y agoNot according to https://flowingdata.com/2021/05/26/jobs-that-marry-together/ https://flowingdata.com/2021/05/26/jobs-that-marry-together/
- heavyset_go 4y agoIt's sometimes illegal for teachers to even go on strike. My area had an incident where striking teachers were arrested and taken to jail.
- folli 4y ago"The floggings will continue until moral improves"
- tdeck 4y agoSometimes they win demands even when the strike is illegal. The 2018 West Virginia teacher's strike turned into a wildcat (unauthorized) strike but that didn't stop them from winning a 5% pay raise. It does depend a lot on community support and sympathy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_West_Virginia_teachers%27_strike https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_West_Virginia_teachers%...
- heavyset_go 4y agoSome states it's just illegal for teachers to strike at all, wildcat or not, or even to organize with unions.
- tdeck 4y agoA wildcat strike is always illegal in the US. Organizing a union isn't illegal in any state, it's about whether the union gets official recognition and official bargaining rights. My point was that it's possible to win even if you don't have those things.
- wongarsu 4y agoIn jail they won't come to work either. That sounds more like a scare tactic
- heavyset_go 4y agoIt's less of a scare tactic and more of a way to punish and prevent teachers from organizing in the first place.
- solarmist 4y agoDidn’t the nation’s largest ever healthcare strike start today in MN?
- robertlagrant 4y agoThey don't need to go on strike if there's an alternative employer available. They just need to quit. Going on strike turns these things from being focused on bad managers to focusing on intransigent employees. Leaving means the management needs fixing or changing.
- EFreethought 4y agoI am not in nursing, but from what I have seen in corporate America: even when there is a lot of churn, bad managers always think everybody else is the problem.
- robertlagrant 4y agoOf course. But they don't assess themselves :)
- heavyset_go 4y agoIn my experience, management tends to protect themselves and go up to bat for each other, especially when things can be blamed on their subordinates.
- robertlagrant 4y agoThis isn't about blame, though. Even if for some reason you feel the need to care about blame passed around in a company after you've left, I would say it's still worse to strike when you can leave. Unless you're suggesting that being blamed by management is intrinsically important and going on strike is going to be less blamed by management? I would just disagree with every aspect of that statement.
- gorbachev 4y agoIt's everywhere. The Government in my country is working on a law prohibiting nurses from striking for better working conditions (incl. more staffing) and better pay. Most countries have laws already to ensure adequate staffing for emergency personnel, but this is going way beyond those type of laws. That's gonna work awesome once all the nurses start quitting. I hope they do.