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No good deed does unpunished.

yboris 4y ago
I think this is one of the most unfortunate memes that people for some reason still continue to share. Think about what it teaches children when they hear it? What kind of a world view does it instill? By saying the phrase you are explicitly communicating the idea that it is (at least is some sense) better to not do good deeds.
- NoboruWataya 4y ago
  I don't think people are out there teaching kids to live their lives by this mantra. It's not intended to be a life philosophy, more of a bleak and darkly humorous observation. Sure, it's not always true, but it sure does feel like it sometimes. Kind of like "life's a bitch, and then you die", it's not meant to be taken too seriously.
  - yboris 4y ago
    That's the thing - you don't have to intend to teach kids anything, they just pick up on the stuff you say. I know this isn't a forum where we are endangering children by writing stuff like this, but it strikes me as a bizarre sentiment to express (of all the things one can say in an unfortunate situation - to choose summarize the whole scenario with that sentence).
- geraldwhen 4y ago
  Search for “woman murdered while helping motorist”. There are too many evil people to willfully ignore the dangers of helping others. You should always, always be aware of the risks you’re putting yourself in any situation. In life, in work, in family, it doesn’t matter. And yes, that’s worth teaching children.
  - londons_explore 4y ago
    Sometimes you get something positive out of helping a stranger too... A new friend, a favour in return, or simply experience of doing something new/different. As long as the positives outweigh the dangers, it's worth doing.
    - rascul 4y ago
      Awhile back I would see someone walking down the road sometimes when I drove home from work. One day he was going the same direction as I was so I stopped and offered him a ride. He then told me how he was a bad person but had been reborn. God had told him that there are great things in store for him, and he was supposed to travel the world and marry Beyonce in New Orleans. It was an interesting experience. He turned down the ride.
    - geraldwhen 4y ago
      The potential dangers are death in the examples I gave. The first rule of investing is avoid ruin. We only get chance at life, so what happens on average isn’t meaningful. We have to guard against outlier events. Strangers should be distrusted by default, which is a lesson taught to children. It shocks me that some adults forget something so simple. This applies to teachers, cops, and anyone else you can think of. Trust is earned and should never be offered freely.
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- jtbayly 4y ago
  Won't somebody think of the children?! ;)
- gjs278 4y ago
- blooalien 4y ago
  > "No good deed goes unpunished." > "I think this is one of the most unfortunate memes that people for some reason still continue to share." Even more unfortunate is that so many humans go out of their way to prove it true… Growing up in a small town, I was raised on more wholesome "memes" like "deep down, everyone wants to be a good person" and "sharing is caring" and other such silly lies, but having been out in "the real world" now for several decades, I've learned the error of that sort of thinking (at least here in the USA). The vast majority absolutely do not want to be good. They want to use and abuse everyone around them, and push others down into the gutters of life until they're filled with hatred for humanity. They want to beat every shred of goodness and decency out of everyone they meet, and that's just how life on Planet Earth is… It's a side-effect of having built a society around the idea that money is literally more important than anything else (including even life itself). Humans are mostly monsters and don't even realize it. I'm only happy that we're sure to kill ourselves off as a species before we escape this planet and infect the rest of the Universe with our evil greedy self-centered uncaring ways. > "Think about what it teaches children when they hear it? What kind of a world view does it instill? By saying the phrase you are explicitly communicating the idea that it is (at least is some sense) better to not do good deeds." I wish I had been taught that most people cannot be trusted, instead of the foolishness I was taught. I'd have had a much easier life than the ongoing "waking nightmare" that I currently live. A more realistic world-view would have protected me from much / most of the abuse and backstabbery I've suffered in this life. And the worst of it for me is knowing that as bad as my life has gone South on me, I've still got it "lucky" compared to those humanity abuses the worst (those in nations where people cannot even protect themselves against the most vile abuses humanity can perpetrate against other humans). I mean, sure, I'm not able to afford the medical care that I need to get back to a semi-"normal" existence, but at least I'm not starving to death or being worked to death in mines somewhere, barely able to live another day.
- denkmoon 4y ago
  and there are people out there telling kids that "good vibes" will make the "universe" "reward them". It's really not that big of a deal. Smart kids will realise they're wading through a sea of bullshit and the rest are already predisposed to whatever bullshit pleases them.
  - yboris 4y ago
    But why would you want the stupid kids get infected with shitty memes? You're the one choosing which memes (mind viruses) to propagate.

I think this is one of the most unfortunate memes that people for some reason still continue to share. Think about what it teaches children when they hear it? What kind of a world view does it instill? By saying the phrase you are explicitly communicating the idea that it is (at least is some sense) better to not do good deeds.

NoboruWataya 4y ago
I don't think people are out there teaching kids to live their lives by this mantra. It's not intended to be a life philosophy, more of a bleak and darkly humorous observation. Sure, it's not always true, but it sure does feel like it sometimes. Kind of like "life's a bitch, and then you die", it's not meant to be taken too seriously.
- yboris 4y ago
  That's the thing - you don't have to intend to teach kids anything, they just pick up on the stuff you say. I know this isn't a forum where we are endangering children by writing stuff like this, but it strikes me as a bizarre sentiment to express (of all the things one can say in an unfortunate situation - to choose summarize the whole scenario with that sentence).
geraldwhen 4y ago
Search for “woman murdered while helping motorist”. There are too many evil people to willfully ignore the dangers of helping others. You should always, always be aware of the risks you’re putting yourself in any situation. In life, in work, in family, it doesn’t matter. And yes, that’s worth teaching children.
- londons_explore 4y ago
  Sometimes you get something positive out of helping a stranger too... A new friend, a favour in return, or simply experience of doing something new/different. As long as the positives outweigh the dangers, it's worth doing.
  - rascul 4y ago
    Awhile back I would see someone walking down the road sometimes when I drove home from work. One day he was going the same direction as I was so I stopped and offered him a ride. He then told me how he was a bad person but had been reborn. God had told him that there are great things in store for him, and he was supposed to travel the world and marry Beyonce in New Orleans. It was an interesting experience. He turned down the ride.
  - geraldwhen 4y ago
    The potential dangers are death in the examples I gave. The first rule of investing is avoid ruin. We only get chance at life, so what happens on average isn’t meaningful. We have to guard against outlier events. Strangers should be distrusted by default, which is a lesson taught to children. It shocks me that some adults forget something so simple. This applies to teachers, cops, and anyone else you can think of. Trust is earned and should never be offered freely.
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jtbayly 4y ago
Won't somebody think of the children?! ;)
gjs278 4y ago
blooalien 4y ago
> "No good deed goes unpunished." > "I think this is one of the most unfortunate memes that people for some reason still continue to share." Even more unfortunate is that so many humans go out of their way to prove it true… Growing up in a small town, I was raised on more wholesome "memes" like "deep down, everyone wants to be a good person" and "sharing is caring" and other such silly lies, but having been out in "the real world" now for several decades, I've learned the error of that sort of thinking (at least here in the USA). The vast majority absolutely do not want to be good. They want to use and abuse everyone around them, and push others down into the gutters of life until they're filled with hatred for humanity. They want to beat every shred of goodness and decency out of everyone they meet, and that's just how life on Planet Earth is… It's a side-effect of having built a society around the idea that money is literally more important than anything else (including even life itself). Humans are mostly monsters and don't even realize it. I'm only happy that we're sure to kill ourselves off as a species before we escape this planet and infect the rest of the Universe with our evil greedy self-centered uncaring ways. > "Think about what it teaches children when they hear it? What kind of a world view does it instill? By saying the phrase you are explicitly communicating the idea that it is (at least is some sense) better to not do good deeds." I wish I had been taught that most people cannot be trusted, instead of the foolishness I was taught. I'd have had a much easier life than the ongoing "waking nightmare" that I currently live. A more realistic world-view would have protected me from much / most of the abuse and backstabbery I've suffered in this life. And the worst of it for me is knowing that as bad as my life has gone South on me, I've still got it "lucky" compared to those humanity abuses the worst (those in nations where people cannot even protect themselves against the most vile abuses humanity can perpetrate against other humans). I mean, sure, I'm not able to afford the medical care that I need to get back to a semi-"normal" existence, but at least I'm not starving to death or being worked to death in mines somewhere, barely able to live another day.
denkmoon 4y ago
and there are people out there telling kids that "good vibes" will make the "universe" "reward them". It's really not that big of a deal. Smart kids will realise they're wading through a sea of bullshit and the rest are already predisposed to whatever bullshit pleases them.
- yboris 4y ago
  But why would you want the stupid kids get infected with shitty memes? You're the one choosing which memes (mind viruses) to propagate.