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Right—in some sense it's not really Windows' fault that something like Git is barely-portable and relies on a rube-goldberg-machine pile of scripts and binaries

Right—in some sense it's not really Windows' fault that something like Git is barely-portable and relies on a rube-goldberg-machine pile of scripts and binaries in several languages with the result that it has to ship half a unix environment to work somewhere that's very non-unix, or that open-source software in general treats Windows the way web developers treat Firefox. OTOH, in practice, if you're using a lot of open source tools and have developers working on every single halfway-plausible OS except windows, things are probably pretty OK, but then you throw Windows in the mix and suddenly the time you spend supporting your builds & tools shoots way up. That makes it feel like it's Windows' fault.

cma 4y ago
Android is an even bigger pain, suddenly you have to call Java code just to map memory and can't even have a simple C api for something as low level as that.
- yamtaddle 4y ago
  As a development and/or build environment? Never used it that way, myself. Agree that as a build target, and as far as its various first-party developer-facing features and libraries and SDKs and such go, it's got weirdly-many rough edges and half-baked-but-heavily-promoted junk for such a major platform.
hactually 4y ago
Git is written in C. It hasn't been a "rube-goldberg-machine pile of scripts and binaries in several languages" for a long time (almost a decade).
- howinteresting 4y ago
  Has git rebase --interactive been rewritten in C yet or is it still a bunch of Perl?
  - yrro 4y ago
    $ file -L /usr/lib/git-core/git-rebase /usr/lib/git-core/git-rebase: ELF 64-bit LSB pie executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=95d963a593ffeeb306e8525aacce02f1cbc7dabd, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, stripped
    - howinteresting 4y ago
      I specifically said git rebase --interactive. I know the non-interactive rebase is in C.
- MarkSweep 4y ago
  While there are fewer Perl and shell commands than in the past, several remain. Scroll down to git-add—-interactive.perl to see: https://github.com/git/git/tree/master https://github.com/git/git/tree/master
- yamtaddle 4y ago
  My install directories sure look like it's still that way. And I'm not using a decade-old git. I discovered this fact about git far more recently than a decade ago, in fact (though I was using it back then).
bsder 4y ago
Mercurial worked very nicely on Windows for a lot of years that Git didn't. It was a complete waste of Mercurial developer's time that would have been better spent creating a GitHub equivalent. If it doesn't come from Microsoft, Windows developers don't care. Learn that lesson or repeat the mistake.

cma 4y ago

Android is an even bigger pain, suddenly you have to call Java code just to map memory and can't even have a simple C api for something as low level as that.

yamtaddle 4y ago
As a development and/or build environment? Never used it that way, myself. Agree that as a build target, and as far as its various first-party developer-facing features and libraries and SDKs and such go, it's got weirdly-many rough edges and half-baked-but-heavily-promoted junk for such a major platform.

hactually 4y ago

Git is written in C. It hasn't been a "rube-goldberg-machine pile of scripts and binaries in several languages" for a long time (almost a decade).

howinteresting 4y ago
Has git rebase --interactive been rewritten in C yet or is it still a bunch of Perl?
- yrro 4y ago
  $ file -L /usr/lib/git-core/git-rebase /usr/lib/git-core/git-rebase: ELF 64-bit LSB pie executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=95d963a593ffeeb306e8525aacce02f1cbc7dabd, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, stripped
  - howinteresting 4y ago
    I specifically said git rebase --interactive. I know the non-interactive rebase is in C.
MarkSweep 4y ago
While there are fewer Perl and shell commands than in the past, several remain. Scroll down to git-add—-interactive.perl to see: https://github.com/git/git/tree/master https://github.com/git/git/tree/master
yamtaddle 4y ago
My install directories sure look like it's still that way. And I'm not using a decade-old git. I discovered this fact about git far more recently than a decade ago, in fact (though I was using it back then).

bsder 4y ago

Mercurial worked very nicely on Windows for a lot of years that Git didn't. It was a complete waste of Mercurial developer's time that would have been better spent creating a GitHub equivalent. If it doesn't come from Microsoft, Windows developers don't care. Learn that lesson or repeat the mistake.